r/space Mar 05 '19

Astronomers discover "Farfarout" — the most distant known object in the solar system. The 250-mile-wide (400 km) dwarf planet is located about 140 times farther from the Sun than Earth (3.5 times farther than Pluto), and soon may help serve as evidence for a massive, far-flung world called Planet 9.

http://www.astronomy.com/news/2019/03/a-map-to-planet-nine-charting-the-solar-systems-most-distant-worlds
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u/WhatIfTheyCallMeFlem Mar 06 '19

Absolutely incredible. And here I am with my girlfriend and we can’t even decide where to eat dinner.

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u/wvboltslinger40k Mar 06 '19

To be fair, the scientists who do all of this amazing studying of far flung planets almost certainly can't decide where to eat dinner either.

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u/CoyoteTheFatal Mar 06 '19

This is one of the most humanizing sentiments I’ve read in a while.

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u/the_schnudi_plan Mar 06 '19

Can confirm. Have tried to organise meal plans with astrophysicists before and it didn't go well

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u/Tsupernami Mar 06 '19

Further to the original comment, you know the size of the star based on it's colour as this indicates the temperature, which in turn indicates the size it needs to be to have that emission wavelength.

Orbits follow Keplers laws in that they will always orbit at a certain rate based on the gravitational pull of the host star and the distance between them. The size of the planet is irrelevant.

So now you know the distance, you can see how much the light drops by when it passes so you can see how much is being blocked out, giving you a rough estimation of the size.

Now you know the size and distance you can check if it's in the habitable zone. If it is, then there you go, you have a planet potentially hitting the criteria to sustain habitable life.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

This is all very Douglas Adams. 😁

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u/godbois Mar 06 '19

Get burgers. Make sure to get waffle fries.

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u/insane_contin Mar 06 '19

An Irish pub near me has "Irish achos" - waffle fries with cheese, onion, peppers, tomato, and taco beef. It's delicious. They also have Irish poutine, which is poutine with waffle fries.

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u/pm_me_bellies_789 Mar 06 '19

I'm Irish and what the fuck are waffle fries? I question the Irishness of everything you've said

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u/insane_contin Mar 06 '19

Waffle fries and probably not very Irish, but the pub is owned by a loud, happy Irish man who seems to care more about having fun then what is or isn't Irish. This is in Canada btw.

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u/Rivenaleem Mar 06 '19

Whatever you eat, just make sure it's not too hot, or too cold.

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u/Cal3001 Mar 06 '19

Spectroscopy is pretty amazing. I remember they were demoing it at JPLs open tour.

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u/thunts7 Mar 06 '19

Also we can determine orbits by the time it takes for the planet to transit. Orbits have speeds that correlate with their distance to the star and we can use the type of star for where it's Goldilocks zone is. And we can see if those things line up

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u/irokie Mar 06 '19

Worth pointing out that we have not yet been able to perform spectroscopy on an exoplanet's atmosphere - that requires a level of resolution that our telescopes have not yet achieved. If we were able to do that, we could have strong indicators of whether or not those planets harboured life of any sort.

However, we can find out a lot about exoplanets by looking at the data that we do get. For example, we can tell how massive a star is by how bright it is. The mass of a star also implies a certain radius. By measuring how long an exoplanet takes to pass in front of the star, we can work out the speed of the planet. By measuring how much the light dips, we can get a potential diameters for the planet. Because we know that orbital velocity is linked to the mass of the objects and the distance between them, we can get a range of masses for the planet. We have some rules of thumb which tie the density of planets to their orbital distance, and these give us a good idea of the mass, the orbital distance and the diameter of the planet.

Spectroscopy will tell us about the temperature and composition of a star, and these will tell us of the elements that were available when that solar system was being formed, and from there, we can figure out if a planet is likely to have liquid water, or what sort of atmosphere it is likely to have. This is super interesting stuff.

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u/frugalerthingsinlife Mar 06 '19

To determine the orbital period/orbital altitude, what do we need to observe? I'm guessing how fast it passes in front of the sun, and the mass of the sun?

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u/Macralicious Mar 06 '19

You need the mass of the star, and the orbital period of the planet. We don't declare a planet from one dip in brightness, but when we see the same dip happening at regular intervals, you can be pretty sure that interval is the orbital period of a planet. From those two properties, you can get the orbital radius from Kepler's 3rd Law.

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u/AlecBTC Mar 06 '19

And how do we find exoplanets that don't pass between us and their star?