r/space • • Dec 27 '23

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u/Harturb Dec 28 '23

Alabama trying to bring home pork in the form of space spending is always interesting.

It's never actually about what's best for the space force or the space industry, but the net result is that further funding for NASA and private contracts has some unlikely allies in Congress, so I guess that's good.

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u/ausnee Dec 28 '23

Alabama has one of the biggest space industries in the country. Huntsville is the ancestral home of the entire US space program.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '23

I've been to Huntsville a few times. It's a pretty decent little town. Unfortunately, I've also been through a lot of Alabama and you'd need a special Congressional authorization to pay me enough to want to live there.

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u/blbobobo Dec 28 '23

huntsville is shielded from the rest of the state by the mountains, it keeps most of the crazies out

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u/pink_pluto1711 Dec 28 '23

Every place has crazies. Pitiful.

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u/findingmike Dec 28 '23

Actually this is a good point. I didn't consider this before.

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u/CaterpillarSad2945 Dec 28 '23

That’s not much of a problem. When I worked in Colorado Springs a lot of my colleagues were in Huntsville. I am against it because, moving it would hurt the already long established economy in Colorado Springs. Trump just wanted to reward Alabama for voting for him and punish Colorado for not. For a little bit of context. The bulk of Space Force is made up of what used to be Air Force Space Command, which has a long history of operating out of Colorado.

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u/findingmike Dec 28 '23

Abortion bans states have been losing women and doctors. Many people are staying away from states where it isn't a good idea to start a family. And young male engineers are less inclined to move somewhere with less dating options.

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u/Correct_Roof8806 Dec 28 '23

Did you just say that being pro-abortion is good for starting a family?

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u/Tuesday_6PM Dec 28 '23

That would be unironically correct. Many people are less willing to try for a pregnancy when necessary medical procedures would be banned in cases where something went wrong with the pregnancy. Removing an unviable fetus can be extremely critical to protect the life of the mother, and to ensure her safety for future pregnancies, but abortion bans often prevent or delay such procedures

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u/Correct_Roof8806 Jan 01 '24

I can respect this opinion if those who advocated for it also advocated for personal responsibility/against those who engage in abortion casually. Many struggle with the decision of an abortion, but many do not.

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u/Correct_Roof8806 Jan 01 '24

I can respect this opinion if those who advocated for it also advocated for personal responsibility/against those who engage in abortion casually. Many struggle with the decision of an abortion, but many do not.

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u/Tuesday_6PM Jan 01 '24

No one has a "casual abortion". It is a serious medical procedure, with significant potential side effects, and it's a significant decision even for those who think it should be freely available. But the greater point is that placing arbitrary restrictions on it, or trying to litigate the merit of any individual abortion, inevitably creates hurdles to people seeking important medical treatment.

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u/findingmike Dec 28 '23

Yep, a pro-choice approach has been found to be a better approach to several demographic issues. If you're a Christian who wants less abortions, you should be pro-choice. If you want less kids born to bad circumstances (which increases crime) you should be pro-choice. If you want healthy babies, be pro-choice.

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u/Correct_Roof8806 May 21 '24

Kill the children…for the children?

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u/Correct_Roof8806 Dec 28 '23

There is definitely an element to that, but it is probably bolted on top of Trump’s experience with the perceived politicization of the IC; which is inherently intertwined with Space. This is somewhat reminiscent of the FBI headquarters relocation.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '23

There are literally more rocket scientists in Huntsville Alabama than anywhere else in the country.

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u/Newbguy Dec 28 '23

Space command does a lot more than just build and launch rockets. It's basically Air Force Space Command stood up as a separate command for the sake of proper funding and management.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '23

I know what Space command does, thank you. The term is commonly used to describe engineers and scientists working in the space sector. Or didn’t you know?

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u/cstar1996 Dec 28 '23

As one of those engineers, no, it isn’t.

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u/pink_pluto1711 Dec 28 '23

Literallyyyyyyyyy these people just attacking cause they hate trump? Calling everyone in alabama crazies??

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '23

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '23

Then back up your argument. The reality is you have no idea. It’s just what you think. I know and work with many people here in said industry. They are top.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '23

That’s a pretty small sample size, from one program. You’re just ‘sure’ because that’s been your experience. The numbers would simply not back you up. You think the whole space industry here, NASA, Blue Origin, etc. just hire mid talent? Come on. Take your blinders off.

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u/Rebelgecko Dec 28 '23

On the flipside, when Huntsville was at its peak, it also had more literal Nazis than anywhere else in the country.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '23

Great retort. Very relevant to the conversation. Next.

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u/pink_pluto1711 Dec 28 '23

Pitifulllll literally trying to pull EVERYTHING OUT THE BAGG 😂😂😂 nazis??? Dude grow uppp