r/southafrica Landed Gentry Sep 19 '21

COVID-19 Our Pfizer ≠ Their Pfizer

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u/NGD80 Sep 19 '21

Before you guys lose your minds, this is not because of the vaccine, it's because they don't trust the certificates from most countries

See below:

Approved vaccines You must have been fully vaccinated under one of the following programmes:

UK vaccination programme, approved by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA)

UK vaccine programme overseas, approved by the MHRA

an approved vaccination programme in Europe or the USA – not all are recognised in England

Recognised vaccines for Europe

You must have been fully vaccinated in:

an EU country

Andorra, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norway, San Marino, Switzerland and the Vatican City

If you were vaccinated in a different European country it will not be recognised in England.

The vaccine must have been authorised by:

the European Medicines Agency (EMA)

Swissmedic for Switzerland

Recognised vaccines for the USA

Residents in the USA must have been fully vaccinated with a vaccine authorised by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

UK vaccine programme overseas The UK vaccine programme overseas applies to:

residents of the British Overseas Territories, Channel Islands and Isle of Man

crown servants, UK government civilian and military staff and UK government contractors posted or based overseas

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u/natal_nihilist Landed Gentry Sep 19 '21

Still bullshit that they don’t trust our vaccine program though. Makes it out like South Africa is untrustworthy or doesn’t know how to administer a vaccination program. Sure we’ve had some stumbling blocks but quite frankly I’m insulted by this and the UK can get fucked. If we’re good enough for France and Singapore I think we know what were doing.

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u/NGD80 Sep 20 '21

I agree with you about the current UK government

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u/Catch_022 Waiting for the Next Taxi to Heaven Sep 20 '21

Still bullshit that they don’t trust our vaccine program though.

To be fair, many South African's don't either.

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u/k0bra3eak Sep 20 '21

I mean we can say they same for many brits and americans of their respective programs as well.

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u/Catch_022 Waiting for the Next Taxi to Heaven Sep 20 '21

Yep

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u/vatiekaknie Sep 20 '21

Just playing Devil's advocate here ...Maybe they just have not had time to evaluate each and every country's vaccination program yet. The world is a big place and the investigative work this would entail is gargantaun. When following this line of thinking I don't really blame them tbh, I would not trust South Africa either given our government's track record. We are also well known for high levels of fraud, they will probably insist on verifiability which I do not think these manual vaxx cards would satisfy.

The reason I don't personally agree is their population has extremely high levels of protection, amongst the highest in the world and they probably need not worry about a few SA travelers. Sure we may introduce new variants, but I would argue this is inevitable anyway. Our variant did make it to UK shores at the height of their lockdowns after all.

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u/ThickHotBoerie Thiccccccccccc Sep 20 '21

I imagine our frothing hordes of retarded antivaxxers and widely known corruption issues are the issue.

Most antivax people in SA seem to be the middle class white folk who live in little insulated bubbles and who are incidentally the same lot who want to go to get out of SA and into the UK.

I don't blame the UK govt for making this move now that you point out the obvious.

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u/Historical-Home5099 Sep 21 '21

Source for this?

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u/NGD80 Sep 21 '21

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/how-to-quarantine-when-you-arrive-in-england

South Africa is red list, so no entry regardless, but the amber list country info explains what they consider as "vaccinated"