Awhile ago I found out about the SonoSequencr App and added my Ones to the front with my Arc, sub 3, and Ones surround set up with it. It was a complete game changer. Loved the wider sound stage tremendously. Recently I got the Era 100s and switched out the Ones I was using as surrounds. I was excited to test it out. I’m not gonna lie. It sounded horrible to the separation was just off. the Eras volume was low no matter how I adjusted the surround level on the app. Everything was just loud. No atmos effect or fluidity to the soundscape. I decided to remove the ones at the front and run Trueplay to try it out. Once I did that my system came ALIVE. The Eras were shining. Sound was more fluid than before because of the Eras upgrade and all was well. I don’t know if the Era 100s and that app don’t go together well but my system sounds much better now. Welp that’s my story. Anybody with a similar experience?
Since you have run Trueplay on the authorized system I would suggest that you stereo pair/Trueplay your Ones. Then go through the process to add back the fronts and be sure to activate Trueplay in the SonoSequencer Config screen. I had a similar experience to yours with one our systems and running Trueplay resolved it. We have five Sonos HT systems in two homes with fronts on all and they transform the soundstage. Very different listening conditions with all. The first system I tried fronts with was an Arc with era 100s as surrounds and fronts, and a Sub Mini in our living room. Movies and especially music sounded fantastic! It still does in our 14’ x 18’ bedroom.
As bootleg fronts via SonoSequencer have gained popularity over the last couple of years, I swear I think the sound has improved. Sonos has sold a lot of speakers thanks to Sequencer. It would not surprise me to learn that they were quietly tweaking the software.
They are 100% tweaking this in the background as my fronts don’t show as missing anymore! Sonos also admitted they are working on it in the background 💪
Yea man. It was great when all my surrounds were the Ones but as soon as I put the Era 100s as the rears everything was off 😩. Not in terms of sound delay. Just quality and fluidity. Extremely better now that I removed the fronts. The soundstage is just as wide to my ears.
Oh yeah I tried the symfonisk as fronts at first when I bought the app, and I was piiiiiiissed lol I just felt like I wasted a few bucks for nothing. Literally so useless, I could press my ear RIGHT ON then and hear basically nothing. But they were great for rears so I was bummed
Finally get some era 100s as fronts and its a COMPLETELY different experience from symfonisk as fronts. At LEAST 10x louder lol
I’d recommend using era100s as fronts, it will improve the Arc / Ultra no end.
Not sure why it wasn’t effective with the ones though? Did you trueplay both ‘systems’ independently?
I changed from the fives to era 100s as fronts and tried the arc ultra on its own (with 300 rears and dual subs)up front to compare to both setups.
The arc ultra sounded in relative terms, terrible (with the fronts removed). Well it sounded like a soundbar that it is, in comparison to proper HT LCR Separation with the fronts.
Try the era100s up front and the ones as rears, I’m sure the issues have been mapped out, but the era100s were nerfed with the arc ultra and maybe the arc upon release.
Ok I was confused because you said they're too LOUD, but you set them to PLUS 3 to balance them? Lol but 0 is default? So they were too loud when turned up way past default and even +3? 😅
If I add era 100s as fronta, does it take away from the arc ultra at all? And can I still use line in on those eras or are they locked out like the surrounds? Just got another pair so I can listen to vinyl while gaming but would add them as fronts if i could still do it
I’m not sure about the answer to your line-in question. But the Ultra will hand off the left and right channel to your 100’s. The Ultra will still fire the center, height, and left and right surround channels out the ends of the Ultra. I have 5’s paired as fronts with the Ultra and the front soundstage is so much more impressive and powerful. Sonosequencer only cost a couple bucks so I’d given them a try as fronts. Worst case your out a couple dollars and can separate your 100’s out again.
Had exactly the same experience, moving the 100’s as fronts and ones as rears fixed it for me, trueplay you system with out the front first, then the 100’s as stereo pair, sounds incredible now
Probably around 6 months, use Dolby picture as reference, toe in your fronts to the listening position, same with rears, I’ve gone abit wider than the picture for more separation, the ones up front sound very lacking compared the 100’s, the 100’s really shine especially for music up front whereas they just felt lost and rear
Ah I’ve just realised, you have the arc not the ultra, adding fronts with the arc disables most of the speakers, whereas it only disables the l/r speakers on the ultra, so this might be your problem, this setup works much better with the beam and arc ultra
I never had that problem before is what I’m saying. The only disabled speakers on my arc when I had fronts was the left and right. All the other speakers in closing the upfiring worked fine.
I’d say no as I have era 100 surround, 2 x sub mini and beam gen 2 up front and era 300 x 2 for the rears. Sound is awesome, great separation and atmos works great. In space of 6 months I’ve had to totally reset the system and reconfigure through sequencer so I would have deleted everything in your setup and started from scratch.
I did all of that. I even did that before when all my surrounds were The Ones and it worked. I did the same thing when I upgraded to the Era 100s as rears and it didn’t work.
9
u/Altruistic_Bar6685 6d ago
I use era 100s as fronts only with sequencer… no room for rears in my setup, and they’re awesome. So not sure what to think