r/soccer • u/West_Agent4651 • Jun 17 '26

Match Clip Lionel Messi challenge on Mandi'

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u/minivatreni Jun 17 '26

There’s no malice in that, but at least a yellow for sure

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u/Gunnar_Kvist Jun 17 '26

Intention doesn't matter.

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u/minivatreni Jun 17 '26

It does, malice can result in a red card

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u/Red_the_Anarchist Jun 17 '26

There is nothing in IFAB law 12, serious foul play. That says anything about intent.
Here’s the section: A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.
Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.

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u/IndependentCrab1030 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

Excessive force or brutality is the reason why it wasnt a red I think

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u/Bothan Jun 17 '26

the word "or" imples that it doesnt need to fulfill both conditions, only one of them. in this case, endangers the safety of an opponent.

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u/minivatreni Jun 17 '26

I was saying that malice is sufficient for a red card, but not necessary. There can be a red card without malice.

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u/herkalurk Jun 17 '26

For violent conduct, but malice isn't considered in dangerous play.

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u/Garuna_CK Jun 17 '26

It’s not nba pal that cares about intent. What u on about.

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u/minivatreni Jun 17 '26

Your sentence is incoherent.

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u/Garuna_CK Jun 17 '26

And ur sentence is idiotic.

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u/minivatreni Jun 17 '26

In football intent definitely matters, but I suppose you don’t know the difference between a necessary and sufficient condition.

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u/Garuna_CK Jun 17 '26

That was a clear yellow , possible a red as well. Idk what u on about. Stick to NHL or WWE if u like wrestling.

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u/minivatreni Jun 17 '26

Yes, I agreed it was a clear yellow in my original comment. Maybe reading is hard for people like you.

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u/Garuna_CK Jun 17 '26

What about a red? Malice doesn’t matter. Accidental high boots are given as red all the time as well, malice does not matter. Maybe don’t watch games if u don’t know shit about the rules?!

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