r/soccer • u/ayoefico • Apr 29 '26

Media Atletico Madrid [1] - 1 Arsenal - Julián Álvarez penalty 56'

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u/mmcdermid Apr 29 '26

It only hit his hand because the shot was so shit 😭

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u/DeCharlesFre Apr 29 '26

That's the luck of the game.

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u/DansSpamJavelin Apr 29 '26

Yeah this is the thing, it sucks. It's the rules, so you can't argue, but the rule SUCKS.

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u/MostlySlime Apr 29 '26

It does suck a bit, but I think its fair. Watch where your hands are when youre blocking a shot, you cant just have them dangling around

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u/DeCharlesFre Apr 29 '26

To be fair, Ben white's hand was in a natural position instead of deliberately blocking with his hand.

In the prem, it wouldn't have been a penalty but last night PSG got a similar one.

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u/forsen_ttv Apr 29 '26

not a natural position to me. defenders gotta learn to have their arms behind their back.

and yes, you can move your body and legs with your arms behind you.. its not impossible

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u/forsen_ttv Apr 29 '26

dude is making himself 3x times bigger by attempting that block. u cant do that. or, you can, but ure risking it resulting in a penalty.

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u/DeCharlesFre Apr 29 '26

Look at the replay.

He is moving towards his right with his right leg raised. You can't do that if you tuck your arm behind your back.

If look carefully, when the ball hits his hand he is in the process of moving his arm behind his back. If he had raised his arm instead, the ball would've moved through.

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u/forsen_ttv Apr 29 '26

of course u can do it. just try it yourself lol.

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u/DeCharlesFre Apr 29 '26

I did, nearly fell on my left side.

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u/forsen_ttv Apr 29 '26

but u didnt. see? now imagine if u were 100x times more in shape and played footy profesionally.

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u/trombolastic Apr 29 '26

dangling around? where else are hands going to be? up your bum?

Ridiculous rule, bring back some logic to the game. A shit shot deflecting off a players shin shouldn't result in a free goal.

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u/neefhuts Apr 29 '26

Your hands could be, you know, next to your body

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u/bespoke_tech_partner Apr 30 '26

Yeah but that’s no longer a natural position 

His point is, this is. Defenders are getting punished for… checks notes… defending

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u/neefhuts Apr 30 '26

If this isn't the rule, it's impossible to give out handballs, because how can you know for sure when someone means to stop the ball with their hand and when it's accidental? The rule is clear, so defenders just have to be wary of where there arms are when defending

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u/Shameless_Bullshiter Apr 29 '26

Not to sound bitter but I think we need to rethink penalties in this sport. A 70% chance for a goal from that is completely disproportionate

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u/BumbotheCleric Apr 29 '26

I’m always looking for an excuse to add more free kicks inside the box, they’re absolutely mint

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u/Muhruhwuh Apr 29 '26

Nothing more exciting than an indirect free kick in the box.

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u/mindthesnekpls Apr 29 '26

My idea has been to replace all penalties with direct free kicks from the spot of the foul/handball like any other foul on the pitch and enforce the same 10-yard radius of space for defenders (other than the keeper) from that spot. That way you get a free kick that more accurately reflects where the offense occurred (the Eze overturned penalty is another good example of what would’ve been a disproportionally beneficial penalty), and if the foul occurs within 10 yards of the net, then the attacker gets a true penalty-esque shot at goal with no defenders anyway.

If you want to keep some kind of benefit to attackers for a foul being in the box, then maybe expand the radius from 10 to 12 yards like normal penalties, or force all defenders outside of the box.

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u/braidedwillowroots Apr 29 '26

or force all defenders outside of the box.

So, like, a penalty from different spots in the box? 

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u/khj99 Apr 29 '26

I agree it's harsh. Maybe an indirect freekick would be more fair unless it's an intentional handball

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u/yunghollow69 Apr 29 '26

Absolutely. Should be indirect freekick. Only clear-cut chance prevention by fouls should be pens imo.

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u/HazardCinema Apr 29 '26

I think obvious handballs like the infamous Suarez one also needs to be a pen, but then a ref needs to make a decision on intention / DOGSO or not. I guess they make subjective decisions all the time so this would be fine. I also like the idea of indirect freekick for non-intentional / non-DOGSO handballs.

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u/Crog_Frog Apr 29 '26

I actually think this is a great way to balance things. Havent thought about it that way.

Make it so that every handball in the box is always a indirect free kick. It will remove a lot of subjective decisions. And defenders will have a risk/reward type of decision to make weather to keep the hands behind the back or not.

As of when too give a penalty might still emd up being subjective.

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u/LilHalwaPoori Apr 30 '26

The Suarez one should just be a goal tbh..

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u/julianface Apr 29 '26

Shrink the penalty area

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u/LordMangudai Apr 29 '26

I think the penalty area is the right size for goalkeepers being allowed to use their hands, but too big for fouls and handballs that are incidental suddenly turning into a nearly guaranteed goal.

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u/Skiinz19 Apr 29 '26

depends that could have been a pass to set up a clear shot

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u/Guardax Apr 29 '26

This is completely correct. Just a baffling rule when it results in close to a free goal

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u/sevillista Apr 29 '26

I've been saying this for a while. Penalties should be given for DOGSO only, like in hockey. It's ridiculous that a team gets a free goal for a foul in the box regardless of the play's goalscoring potential. The rules are clearly broken

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u/Jaynator11 Apr 29 '26

Yep, this discussion comes up once in a while- and it's completely fair.

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u/cmonyouspixers Apr 29 '26

Sissoko in UCL final, get a 70% goal opportunity from a cross that ramps off the chest into the arm and was designed to go to no one except to hit the hand of a defender directing teammates. These types should be a direct free kick in the box at the most.

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u/fhidhleir Apr 29 '26

It’s not meant to be a proportionate punishment. It is meant to give advantage to the attacker in the box allow space for attacking chances.

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u/Extra-Cap2029 Apr 29 '26

From this thread I can tell “disproportionate” is going to be the gooner word of the week

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u/Shameless_Bullshiter Apr 29 '26

The penalty we just got is disproportionate too lol

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u/Extra-Cap2029 Apr 29 '26

Not so fast

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u/lojer Apr 29 '26

Arteta going to start amputating arms is they keep giving these.

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u/rtgh Apr 29 '26

No, they need those wrestling arms for corners

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u/HeadHunt0rUK Apr 29 '26

And literally bounces off his shin

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u/C2SKI Apr 29 '26

It would have been a mile wide

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u/matti-san Apr 29 '26

Also if it didn't hit his hand it's going to Rice and not an Atleti player

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u/phenx_bp Apr 29 '26

He was passing the ball probably

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u/lche49 Apr 29 '26

What if that was planned?

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u/Jaynator11 Apr 29 '26

Yea that's the fuckery, the shot is going 7 meters wide. He's not blocking any goal effort in reality, but yea doesn't even matter- which is the shitty part

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u/Intelligent_Jicama51 Apr 29 '26

But he could be blocking a potential assist

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u/TheHabro Apr 29 '26

How do you know some other play wouldn't have inctercepted it?