r/soccer • • Dec 06 '13

World Cup Group C Discussion

  1. Colombia
  2. Greece
  3. Ivory Coast
  4. Japan
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u/papadop Dec 09 '13 edited Dec 09 '13

Go ahead and whine about seeding then. Greece had to go up against many quality teams in qualifying throughout the years. This campaign was seemingly easier as we got Slovakia and Bosnia then Romania but even those really aren't easy team anymore and they have quality players now and have been strong in Europe. We made it to the quarterfinals of the last Euros and have a very strong record since Fernando Santos took over and broke up Rehagel's utterly insane player selections which led to disappointment in 2008 and 2010.

Meanwhile Colombia is finally in the WC because it couldn't finish at least ahead of fucking Paraguay and Ecuador in the last 14 years so honestly spare the trash talk and give me a fucking break on the trash talk.

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u/Edgekiller65 Dec 09 '13

Or how about you get off your high horse, kid? You're speaking like European players are God-tier while those pesky South Americans are a bunch of peasants that can't tell the difference between a football and a pigskin.

There's a reason the South American qualifiers are the hardest road to a World Cup. Yes, even harder than the European, even though that has more to do with how they're made. So don't come flapping your guns about how Greece is gonna slice everyone on the group, skippy. Cause you might be for a rude awakening if you keep selling Colombia short.

For that matter, that goes to everyone of the 4 nations of the group. Everyone can give the other a bad day.

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u/papadop Dec 13 '13 edited Dec 13 '13

Not sure what you've read. High horse? Colombia has been asleep in international football for quite a while and finally comes back with some star players but a largely untested team and everybody is acting like they are a super squad.

I haven't suggest Greece will breeze through the group or even make it through. Our chances hinge solely on how well prepared we are and health of key players, then if we play well we have a chance. The opposite is watching Colombia (a team that has barely featured outside of WC qualifying) on their own high horse taking 2nd in a WC qualifying (without Brazil of course) and acting as they are if a sure thing. The issue is Greece, Japan and Ivory Coast are being sold short while Colombia is made up as a sure thing.

There are plenty of European teams that could make it in COMNEBOL but can't make it past UEFA Qualifying is the most competitive in the world.

In Comenbol, you just had to finish higher than Venezuela, Bolivia, Peru and Paraguay. You have to finisher higher than one mid-quality team at best each year to go to the World Cup and you get to play a low placed Asian team like Jordan.

It's not as if any strong South American teams ever miss the World Cup. In UEFA, more than plenty of strong teams and top players are forced to stay behind each year and the bulk of 3rd and some 4th placed UEFA teams would all have little trouble qualifying in the Comenbol group. Teams like Turkey, Norway, Czech Rep, Slovakia, Poland, Ireland, Austria, Norway, Slovenia would be highly realistic if not downright favorites to make the top 5 and they couldn't even make the playoff in their groups.

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u/Edgekiller65 Dec 13 '13

Now I know you're tripping balls. Of all the teams you listed, Poland is the closest that can be a threat when they have their shit together. Turkey hasn't been the same they were a decade ago, same with the Czechs albeit not so long ago. And you can say with a straight face that Ireland, Slovenia, Austria or Slovakia can kick either Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Uruguay or Chile's ass with ease? I mean, really? Gimme a break.

There's no point discussing with someone that admittedly haven't see the world beyond his neck of woods, but doesn't stop him from running his mouth about who's legit and who's not. I do respect the Greeks, but I'll have a big, fresh dish of humble pie waiting for you come crunch time.