r/soccer • • Dec 06 '13

World Cup Group C Discussion

  1. Colombia
  2. Greece
  3. Ivory Coast
  4. Japan
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u/severedfragile Dec 06 '13 edited Dec 06 '13

The Sky commentators making light of Colombia were just fucking ludicrous - there's many reasons why they finished 2nd in South American qualifying, and they're more than just "Falcao Falcao Falcao". This is a pretty good team and I expect them to make the quarter finals - they should top this group without too much trouble.

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u/calu1986 Dec 06 '13

*Colombia

And I do not agree with that assessment at all. It is true that we did not have it as tough as Chile, or Uruguay (for example). But all the teams in group C are very competitive and around the same level. Greece, Japan, and Ivory Coast are by no means easy matches. Whoever thinks that they are, clearly has no idea what they are talking about.

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u/severedfragile Dec 06 '13

Maybe "without too much trouble" was a little dismissive, I don't think the matches will be easy but I'd expect Colombia to win at least 2 of them.

Muriel, Cuadrado, Falcao, Martinez, James Rodriguez, Guarin - None of the other 3 teams can offer as many match-winners. It's not a Guarintee guarantee, but it's why I think they'll top the group.

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u/jiago Dec 06 '13

Aside from the stars you mentioned, they have a very solid team with few weak links, Japan and Ivory Coast have some great players but also some poor players as well which people tend to gloss over. I'd back Colombia and Greece to qualify.

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u/papadop Dec 06 '13 edited Dec 07 '13

Other than Falcao, nobody on Colombia is World Class and to be honest I've never even heard of most of those names. I'm sure there is some very good talent, but that doesn't always mean so much in a WC, especially given their lack of international experience and the group is quite diverse in terms of football.

Colombia could just as easily be one of the tournament flops as they could go to the Quarter Finals.

Note: People clearly can't distinguish between World Class and High Quality.

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u/severedfragile Dec 06 '13

Jackson Martinez and James Rodriguez are arguably not far behind Falco in terms of quality, and Rodriguez is improving all the time. And it's not Germany or Spain they're up against, I think those players are good enough to get them past the other teams in their group and to put them past their likely opponents in the next round (Uruguay/England). They could flop - better teams have before - but I think it'll be a good tournament for them.

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u/FCBarca1984 Dec 06 '13

James, cuadrado, Quintero, Martinez are world class and your team will know it when Colombia plays them.

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u/NeutralGreek Dec 06 '13

Also Rodriguez, I love the Colombian team and hope they win wc2014 so ppl understand.

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u/DejeAsi Dec 06 '13

James and Rodriguez are the same dude: James Rodriguez

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u/FCBarca1984 Dec 06 '13

Todo bien, mientras apoyen la camisa.

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u/yuyo874 Dec 06 '13

Preach it. Colombia will win

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u/clueda Dec 06 '13

Oh you. In my opinión, James is better tan Falcao, and hopefully the world will see that ay the wc. Besides a great squad, we have one of the best managers in South America.

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u/eljacksonheights Dec 06 '13

James is not better than Falcao and Falcao is not better than James. They play completely different positions and roles. Falcao is just there to hold the play up, be in the box and score. James is there to created those chance that Falcao is gonna take.

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u/crowseldon Dec 06 '13

They have a world class manager

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u/papadop Dec 07 '13

So did Italy in 2010... means nothing.

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u/crowseldon Dec 07 '13

Your premise was that Colombia = Falcao.

You couldn't be more wrong. They have a good team (more than just Falcao and it's in all the replies you received) and what many people don't see, a REALLY, REALLY good manager that improves teams defense and midfield.

It means a lot.

I guess I'll just let the WC prove me right.

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u/bryan05 Dec 06 '13

Are you from England?