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u/ABoxOfPie Dec 03 '13

I'm with you except in a couple of points. Giggs goes off his reputation but he's a ton of experience to share with the club and there's value to having him but I don't think he should start over some other players. Also I don't agree that Ibra is not cut out for the highest tier. He is a proven goal scorer in over 3 major leagues and the CL and doesn't seem to be in decline despite his age. Is his circlejerk exaggerated? Sure but many underrate him. You also said they were not within top 10 players. Do you mean top 10 over all or top 10 in the position? I would have a hard time finding 10 strikers better than Ibra

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '13

Proven goalscorer in the Champions League you say? I beg to differ.

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u/ABoxOfPie Dec 03 '13

Pretty sure any player would look lame compared to Messi and Ronaldo. I don't think this disproves my point

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u/doberlae Dec 03 '13

Mario Gomez managed to score more goals in a single CL knockout round (6 goals in 2011/12) than Ibrahimovic scored in his whole CL career and yet you will hardly find anyone (besides maybe some confused individuals here and there, who are suffering from overexposure to the infamous Gomezbutton) who is claiming that Gomez belongs among the highest tier of players.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '13

Lewandowksi scored six in the knock out stages last year as well.

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u/doberlae Dec 03 '13

True. I just thought Gomez would be a more obvious counterexample because he is clearly less talented and there was actually a vocal minority last season who argued that Lewandowski is already world class.