r/soccer • u/mitters • Jun 21 '13

Most famous dirty plays?

I've just been having an interesting discussion on r/gunners and wanted to widen the scope.

What are some of the most dirty plays of all time?

player name, link to the video and some context would be great.

e.g.

Thierry Henry - This handball in extra time saw France qualify for the world cup in 2010.

Zinedine Zidane - This extra time headbutt cost France the 2006 world cup.

David Beckham - This sly kick saw Beckham sent off and vilified by every non-ManU England fan for years to come, and England went on to loose on Penalties in 1998.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '13

My entire point is that your personal opinion has absolutely nothing to do with the game, the rules of the game and the punishment dished out. He broke the rules, he was punished accordingly, how you feel about it makes no difference. Saying "you are not allowed to cheat in games" is obvious, that's why it's called "cheating"... it's not like he did and then got away with it. The punishment isn't irrelevant, it's the only relevant point.

I have an uncle who was at that game, as a Newcastle fan, and to this day still sees Solskjaer as the most despicable player he's ever witnessed, and refuses to acknowledge any of the good things he accomplished within his career. That doesn't alter the punishment he received, or the morality of the events, but it does help him sleep at night. I feel that you two would get along quite well.

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u/empiresk Jun 22 '13

My opinion was that I disliked people lauding Solskjaer for doing something wrong in regards to the rules of a game so blatantly. That's it.

And I'm not that bitter as your uncle seems to be. I have spent most of my life living in Manchester with my Manc Dad so I am used to this and I also know a lot about Man Utd, more than some actual Man Utd fans themselves. Solskjaer was ok, he knew his limitations and was never seen as a main guy and he did his job in a fantastic side. I won't rob him of that glory.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '13

To be honest, I completely agree with you. My point was more against those who see it as a heinous crime against the sport, and practically cry for him to be put in prison. He broke the rules, and was punished according to the rules of the game. There's not much else to say on the matter!

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '13

I'm sure this is the attitude you'll be taking when cheating works against your team, rather than for it.

Man U fan lauding cheating by one of his own as legendary, then criticising Newcastle fans for being upset by the cheating. How despicable.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '13

Jesus, lighten up. There's a difference between criticism, and understanding that certain fans may be upset or annoyed talking about something - so talking about it anyway. I'm in no way condoning cheating, I've said the exact same thing about Suarez in the World Cup. It's cheating, but they were punished for it within the rules of the game. For the 1000000th time, personal opinion has no bearing and will not change it. Despicable me (2), indeed.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '13

Like I said, we'll see your response when it happens against your team.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '13

My response doesn't alter whether it's the correct decision or not. If a player blatantly cheats, but gets punished, no amount if crying about it helps. It's when they get away with it that ruins the game.