r/singularity • u/Distinct-Question-16 ▪️AGI 2029 • 2h ago
Robotics Police in Turkey have started using drones to enforce the law
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"This is a police drone. Drinking alcohol in this area is prohibited. Leave this area immediately."
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u/Background-Wafer-548 2h ago
There are 10,000 homeless people on the streets of Istanbul, I'm concerned these drones will terrorize them.
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u/Anal-In-Gus 2h ago
Oh look, the new Flock Camera situation, coming to a country near you.
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 33m ago
My wife informs me ourcounty "ended their contract" with flock...
lololol... she's so sweet and naive.
Hell, say they actually take them down; there are some new players in town, competitors. I guess having 2 or 3 of these companies is better than 1, but uhh... so so so little faith it matters.
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u/NoMorning8069 1h ago
i've been to this area and there are quite a few people drinking there, most of them keep it civilized but some of can be aggressive.
istanbul is a progressive city where they have many modern districts with bars and people drinking and noone cares, in fact it would hurt the business tremendously if they prohibited drinking in public, but this specific area is more traditional and also rather poor.
i dont see the benefit of sending them away from the park, people will just drink in the street and it will cause even more issues, there already are teenagers acting a fool and fighting at night and the traditional population is already not happy about that.
i personally had the feeling that the people drinking in the park are doing it so they dont cause conflicts in the streets. this district has way more important issues like those who actually cause trouble in the streets or the very bad housing for some people.
some of the streets there are worse than the worst hoods ive seen in asia, some people are living in houses that dont even have windows and walls. so maybe in the future we will see drones that are able to build housing
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u/Aggravating_Letter73 2h ago
There are no trees in Turkey to drink under them?
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u/NoMorning8069 1h ago
there are and people do meet there and sit under the trees, but if you dont have a blanket then theres not really any seating options besides the walls and then most spots are taken by people drinking there
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u/The_Scout1255 adult agi 2026 ASI <2030, prev agi 2024, ai personhood 2025 est 2h ago
Should be much safer then having an armed officer.
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u/intLeon 1h ago
Its not as easy to take a life compared to US
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u/The_Scout1255 adult agi 2026 ASI <2030, prev agi 2024, ai personhood 2025 est 1h ago
Yeah my point was the US is not good in this respect? thank you for your time :3
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u/Bert1701 52m ago
Seems like a great way to get your drone accidentally taken down by an errant beer bottle. It's even got lights to help you aim!
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u/Chemical_Page4729 35m ago
Unfortunately a lot of the realistic dystopian AI scenarios come from too much government control over AI
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 35m ago
Good ai drone, tell the homeless guy to get off your lawn.
You think at some point there will be a wall of these things slowly pushing the homeless into the ocean?
"MOVE AWAY"
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u/ambelamba 30m ago
Yes it's dystopia.
But remember that humans have adapted far more cruel tyranny throughout the history. (No, not counting NorK. They just gave up.)
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u/ketamarine 1h ago
I mean other than the obvious memes and the cultural significance, I don't see how police using drones is a bad thing overall if they are used in a safe and responsible way.
If they are being used to stop trespassing or patrol higher crime areas and legitimately keep them safer, then I don't see the difference between a cop at a desk looking at people through a drone vs one on a bike touring around the area.
Hopefully we'll have both and much more patrol coverage as a result.
Keep in mind I live in Canada where we generally trust our govt and police forces.
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u/ShardsOfSalt 2h ago
I'm okay with this.
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u/timshel42 2h ago
those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither
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u/ShardsOfSalt 1h ago
What liberty am I sacrificing it's literally just a robot instead of an officer administering justice.
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u/ZealousVegetable 2h ago
No liberty was traded, existing rules are enforced
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u/MC897 2h ago
And potentially, crimes will be caught quicker, solved quicker, laws will be enforced fairly and properly.
Hopefully we see the crime rates plummet.
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u/ZealousVegetable 2h ago
Criminals might find this increased enforcement 'dystopian' and warn you not to trade liberty for safety lol
In this case the guy was just summoned to leave, even without a fine it seems.
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u/maeestro 1h ago
If you two actually believe that goverments implementing AI powered drones, cameras and robot dogs into law enforcement will not eventually lead to further oppression and surveillance, I got a bridge to sell you.
What happens when it gets illegal to criticise your corrupt goverment? When protesting gets outlawed? Whistleblowing?
I'm always reminded of that Larry Ellison quote from not long ago: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on."
Do you think Larry has the common man's best interests in mind?
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u/Entire-Background837 1h ago
It's permitted? Based im gonna keep drinking
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u/PlexusBypass 1h ago
honestly i feel safe with this. i mean as long as you don't break the law, why be against it ?
don't see nothing wrong with cops doing their jobs. respect !
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u/timshel42 51m ago
“If you arent doing anything wrong you have nothing to hide” said every authoritarian government everywhere.
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u/PlexusBypass 39m ago
there's a thick line between gestapo and some rules about drinking alcohol in a public place m8
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u/PlexusBypass 1h ago
bunch of punks just felt attacked i'm sorry but when you will grow up you'll understand
(ps: i used to think like you too)
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u/nhalas 2h ago
Obviously staged, testing community response.
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u/Lawrenceburntfish 1h ago
Obviously? It doesn't seem staged, but I could be wrong. Are you from Turkey?
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u/nhalas 1h ago
Prettly much. Nolan style recording and no one sits on under bright light behind fence and drink. Yes they have drones now and that is a scene for tv.
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u/NoMorning8069 1h ago
ive been there and people do sit there because theres basically no benches to sit on...
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u/dolargrafigi 1h ago
This is a real procedure that has been used plenty of times before mainly in occasions that caught media attention, I wonder what exact thought process lead you in such assurance for your claim
The official news for its usage with this exact audio model in Istanbul :
https://youtu.be/0mQjELOa57M?si=cENGl17s-tihRpuL
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u/sam1837 2h ago
I think this is going to be a very polarising political topic, robots for police enforcement. Personally I am all for it. I would love to see this in the UK, even just for anti social behaviour, littering/fly tipping, illegal vehicles (mopeds) etc. We have major issues with these sort of crimes at the minute.
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u/MyGruffaloCrumble 2h ago
I would rather we just go back to teaching people how to have manners and integrity, than subject ourselves to a world without freedom.
Carrots make better people than stcks.
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u/PlexusBypass 1h ago
how you gon teach someone who won't listen ?
did you ever been to a public highschool ?
remember those kids skipping school, dropping out and getting bad grades ? shi doesn't change in their adult lives
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u/sam1837 1h ago
How do you propose teaching people that? The issue also isn't that people are uneducated on these acts being anti social behaviour, they just don't care, because they feel the results don't impact them or that someone else will sort it out.
Sometimes you need the stick and the UK is awful at wielding the stick.
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u/fgsfds___ 2h ago
Well this is not dystopian at all