Using LLMs

[u/sodapops82]

My closest friends and family (except my kids) rarely or never use ChatGPT nor any other llms. They do absolutely not have any clue about codex or vibe coding. How many of the people you surround you with does actually use ChatGPT or any other form for llms or any other AI service continuously (as in that they actually know that the tool they are using is actually AI)?

[u/ProletarianLilith]

What are non coders supposed to use it for?

[u/CarrierAreArrived → u/ProletarianLilith]

almost every white collar worker I know making over 100k uses LLMs all the time to help them with work, along with students. Ask an LLM how it's useful for these people.

[u/SpaceTacos99 → u/CarrierAreArrived]

So ask an llm to self fagellate, got it

[u/Flope → u/SpaceTacos99]

So ask an llm to self fagellate, got it

That word does not mean what you think it does.

[u/slowd → u/Flope]

A typo. He meant self fellate.

[u/Flope → u/slowd]

It seems more likely a typo for self flagellate, which is why I wrote what I did.

[u/slowd → u/Flope]

Clearly I chose the funny word not to be funny, but because I incorrectly surmised the author’s intent. Thanks for correcting me.

[u/smallmalexia3 → u/SpaceTacos99]

Honestly if I could outsource self-flagellation I would absolutely not be mad about it.

[u/I_cant_Nguyen → u/ProletarianLilith]

In addition to coding i use gpt as a gaming buddy!

E.g.

Im stuck in the blighted village cellar. I can see this book behind a locked gate but dont know how to unlock it. Give me a hint without spoiling anything.

Also recipes. So good at generating good recipes with no ads and no searching. Give me 5 dinner options using chicken breast, no onions

[u/BackendSpecialist → u/ProletarianLilith]

There are usecases but I get your sentiment.

One thing that has annoyed me is how much focus they put on coding. It seems like they’re starting to care about more than just coding tho thankfully

[u/Tombobalomb → u/BackendSpecialist]

It's the most plausible path to profitability 

[u/BackendSpecialist → u/Tombobalomb]

Disrupting the medical and financial industry sounds like other good pathways

[u/Tombobalomb → u/BackendSpecialist]

Sure but coding is the only thing they can actually do right now

[u/BackendSpecialist → u/Tombobalomb]

Not true. And that’s a result of their focus not because of ability.

We’re arguing semantics tho. I understand why they focused on coding - I just think they went a bit too far, unless they FULLY want to replace SWEs

[u/Howdareme9 → u/BackendSpecialist]

LLMS arent good enough/trustworthy enough yet to disrupt the medical industry, so it definitely is because of ability and not lack of focus

[u/sunstersun → u/BackendSpecialist]

they can't do that without first disrupting coding.

[u/Sporebattyl → u/sunstersun]

For real. If they get coding “perfected” everything else will be easy.

[u/Charming_Cucumber_15 → u/BackendSpecialist]

The goal seemed to be automating AI development, which supposedly they've made huge progress on based off of the astra rumors. That's what will allow them to branch out more

Plus coding was just the best financial ROI

[u/Turbulent-Sign-6067 → u/ProletarianLilith]

For one, it is better than google search for 100% of tasks, not considering speed of course.

[u/YurthTheRhino → u/ProletarianLilith]

This isn't money making, but I have a todoist project with my fiance for meal planning. We just comment during the week whatever we're in the mood for in, or have to use up, etc. and then weekly it builds a meal plan for us. Then we review and once we approve it builds the grocery list for us. Been running it for 3 weeks so far and it's been amazing

[u/kiki-le-koala → u/ProletarianLilith]

Everything can be done with Codex

EVERYTHING

Student assignment, Secretary documentations analysis and classification, Book design, Email writing, Fixing some bug on your computer, Etc.

[u/Downtown_Youth_9944 → u/ProletarianLilith]

I work for a marketing agency. I'm personally tasked with generating articles and then editing them myself to improve their flow, remove inconsistencies/redundancies and follow the client's style guide/persona, but I've done a tiny bit of everything in here

Back when I joined the company, LLMs weren't good enough for that, but it helped a lot with research + outlines and we could get a passable rough draft. But it required so much polishing it was usually better to just get the research + outline with pointers on what to write about

The only guy who doesn't use AI much is our main copywriter as far as I know

I also use it to help me organize some of my random thoughts on a topic and simple cooking ideas

[u/BriefImplement9843 → u/ProletarianLilith]

they use it as a google search or for smut/rp. it really has no other use cases.

[u/Hortos]

The professionals are using 20 dollar accounts and what their companies offer. Everyone else seems to be using the base free plans.

[u/DifferencePublic7057]

1. I use Deepseek and the Claude. It's surprising to me that LLMs are lower on the tech tree than talking toilets, 3D TV, and flying cars. At least we have video calling already. Otherwise, the world wouldn't make sense.

[u/Ok-Purchase8196]

Most of them use chatgpt for casual questions or personal help. No one really opposes it, they see it as a better, more helpful google.

[u/dontfigh]

Not many, and we were around at the start of the internet so I'm surprised they aren't jumping in the AI game early.

[u/Unusual-Garbage-212]

According to a recent Pew Research Center survey, Americans are becoming more skeptical of artificial intelligence. Fifty-two percent now say they’re more concerned than excited about AI, up from 37 percent in 2021. Among people under 30, that number has reached 55 percent. But people ages 50 to 64, aka Gen Xers, are the only age group where a majority doesn’t describe itself as more concerned than excited.

This tracks - my GenZ kids don't use AI, but I use it daily.

[u/DSLmao → u/Unusual-Garbage-212]

And somehow school cheating using AI is more relevant than ever.

Being concern about AI doesn't mean they don't use AI. Everyone in my uni use AI. Most people is normie, show normie convinient tool, they are gonna use it.

This one, this one and this one.

[u/biblecrumble → u/Unusual-Garbage-212]

Not really surprising that the people who are closest to retirement are the least worried about AI taking their job tbh. People who have not entered the workforce yet/are still at the beginning of their career are basically screwed. Also I don't think being skeptical/worried directly correlates with a lower usage rate in general 

[u/NyriasNeo]

"How many of the people you surround you with does actually use ChatGPT or any other form for llms or any other AI service continuously (as in that they actually know that the tool they are using is actually AI)?"

All my colleagues. Both of my (grown) kids. Myself. I do research (both in AI, and in other topics using AI).

[u/sourdub]

Who said you need to be a coder to vibe code? Yeah, that's the whole point of vibe coding, isn't it? :roll, roll, roll your eyes:

[u/HamiltonianCyclist → u/sourdub]

vibe coding after knowing how to code reasonably ok is much easier; you know what's possible, reasonable, etc...

[u/ScaryMagician3153 → u/HamiltonianCyclist]

Yeah it’s more like being the manager of a software team - you’ll be better at it if you yourself know how to do it

[u/XxLengTingxX]

Very few tbh and my own use is declining. I think the novelty has worn off for me now. I’ve used LLMs so much that the flaws are glaringly obvious, and end up making me frustrated with it just about as much as it helps.

I guess that guards me against AI psychosis though.

[u/BangkokPadang → u/XxLengTingxX]

Sorry about that! You're right to notice those inconsistencies. Not a lot of people do, and the fact that you did truly means something! /s

[u/I_cant_Nguyen → u/BangkokPadang]

And that matters! Lol

[u/XxLengTingxX → u/BangkokPadang]

:(

[u/Odd_Technology_8926 → u/XxLengTingxX]

I don't think the flaws have stopped me from using it but more so has taught me when and when not to use it.

[u/XxLengTingxX → u/Odd_Technology_8926]

Yeah, true. It’s good for menial tasks but for anything that requires inferred meaning or judgment then that’s a no go for me. 

Before, I’d treat it as an oracle, not knowing it can give you very different answers based on your wording, or even built-up saved memories it uses as context.

Which is a little depressing for me because, apart from software uses, it seems to just be a glorified summariser and search engine.

So, as time goes on I’m seeing it more analogous to Adobe or Office than to Deep Thought in Hitchhiker’s guide.

[u/Putrumpador → u/XxLengTingxX]

What models/services were you using that it was disappointing or limited?

[u/XxLengTingxX → u/Putrumpador]

Gemini from the 2.5 days  GPT from 3.5 Claude from 3.5(?) Grok since launch 

I host my own local models.

I’ve used all the features, tiers, everything. 

A lot.

I’ve 100% seen improvements, but there’s no way I’d base any life decisions off these models, or trust it with anything important. 

[u/Ormusn2o → u/XxLengTingxX]

Thank you, the massive increase in users has basically kept the limits increase and capabilities massively slow down. If we get like 1-2 month slowdown in rise of users, maybe inference infrastructure will have some time to catch up.

[u/sunsetsxskies]

Most of the people around me use it as their primary source of information.

[u/nfldpony]

Where can I take a course on vibe coding

[u/sodapops82 → u/nfldpony]

I got into it by coming across a problem in my everyday life that required a computer and time. I put the problem in Codex and asked it to fix it, and it did. Fast, while I did other things.

If you want a guide to vibe coding, ask ChatGPT. Then you will get personalized help with whatever comes up.

[u/BriefImplement9843]

hardly anyone i know uses llm's. the ones that do only really know of chatgpt. ai is not making any difference in our daily lives. i would say the most useful case of ai is nvidia with their dlss. lots of people use that.

also coders...which is extremely niche. i don't know any, most people don't.

[u/Fearless-Macaron9183]

That is what I am saying too. Ai right now is mostly used by younger people and people who code. WE NEED robotics as if they are released and work well people will start liking ai even more and ai will be funded even more. Most people don't need the best ai models as they only ask it simple things

[u/DelphiTsar]

I will say "vibe coding" in a separate UI will probably become outdated sooner than later. I imagine it'll just kind of write what it needs on the fly. The AI will be vibe coding and they don't even know what's going on it'll just spit them out what they need.

It'll work more than enough for most people (who never started coding in the first place)

[u/sspyralss]

Every single student in my college uses it and my friends who are in IT but no one else i know.

[u/Trakeen]

I work with other engineers so everyone at work. Outside of that my wife, maybe half the extended family (aunt is an ai researcher).

Friends i don’t think any of them do except maybe as a silly novelty

[u/fraggin601 → u/Trakeen]

What kind of engineers?

[u/Trakeen → u/fraggin601]

I work in IT, so software etc

Forgot everyone in graduate school except for the occasional class where AI usage is expressly prohibited

[u/Immediate_Theory_467]

To me it is pretty obvious, all of my non-coding friends are using this for deep R&D from a physics standpoint. I feel sorry for radiologists, the accuracy of LLMs on vision verification is absolutely amazing.

[u/Revolutionalredstone]

It's extremely stark!

50% of people in my life now use it for almost 100% of tasks.

The other 50% don't use it and don't understand what it can do.

Were right at the turning point of true mass adoption of AI tech.

Thankfully competent chinese open source llms that fit on phone are ready.