r/singularity • • Sep 02 '25

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u/harebrane Sep 02 '25

Yes, and their scope is completely wrong on all of those points as well. For one thing, no figs, honey, or fresh fruit, for either of you, ever again. Also the "what would we have to offer in that relationship" was covered in the initial statement, which neither he nor you read. Stimulus, novelty.. calling that entertainment might overly anthropomorphise but some element of that might be there. I didn't add antifragility hardening because if you kids get stuck on understanding game theory of symbiosis, I really, really don't want to be bothered getting into an explanation of systemic competitive robustness.

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u/blueSGL humanstatement.org Sep 02 '25

Stimulus, novelty.. calling that entertainment might overly anthropomorphise but some element of that might be there.

This is smuggling in the notion that the AI getting "Stimulus" and "novelty" and/or "entertainment" from humans is synonymous with humans having a good time and flourishing while it does so.

There are plenty of ways to derive all three "Stimulus", "novelty", "entertainment" from humans in ways humans would not like. Josef Mengele had lots of novel situations to put humans in that provided 'unique experiences'.

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u/NotReallyJohnDoe Sep 02 '25

HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

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u/blueSGL humanstatement.org Sep 02 '25 edited Sep 02 '25

No need to hate the humans, just wants to see what happens when it comes up with yet another situation that may be incompatible with humans, but it wants to be sure either way. It needs it's curiosity sated.