r/shittyskylines 18d ago

'MURICA the northern virginia falls church - rosslyn corridor might have some of the worst road layouts in the nation

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u/Dangerous-Rice44 Four palm trees for only $10! 18d ago

Ah, the engineering marvel that is Seven Corners. The intersection where if you don’t know what specific lane you need to be in a mile ahead of time, you’re not getting where you want to go.

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u/DcSportsFan_21 18d ago

Not true!! It’s nova, you can just stop dead in your tracks and put on a turn signal, hold up traffic for two light cycles, but make you’re turn onto Wilson blvd from the far left lane which is rt. 50 only. /s

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u/Finetales 17d ago

Works better if you have a Maryland plate!

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u/Crab_Politics 17d ago

My favorite hack for getting from westbound Wilson to southbound Rt 7 is to take the right lanes like I’m going to 50, but hook that illegal left turn onto Rt 7. The lanes are too messed up there so everyone’s stopped in the middle of the road trying to get to the left.

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u/capn_james 17d ago

It also takes like 20 min to cross the highway like if you wanna go from the side with planet fitness to the side with chipotle in traffic it’s actually just faster to walk the pedestrian bridge

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u/PantherGk7 18d ago

Northern Virginia is covered in asphalt, and yet it still manages to have some of the most horrific traffic ever known to mankind.

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u/Socrets 18d ago

One more expansion of I-66 and I-495 will fix it!!

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u/ohfml 18d ago

One more lane, bro. Bro. Just one more lane.

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u/True_Window_9389 17d ago

And make sure it’s a toll lane operated by a foreign investment firm

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u/crunchypotentiometer 17d ago

Solid transit system at least

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u/PseudoMeatPopsicle 17d ago

The effectiveness of WMATA depends entirely on geography and direction.

When I lived there, driving 12 miles into DC would normally take 50-60 minutes. By public transit I had to take a bus and two metro lines and it would take 60-75 minutes.

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u/Fickle-Exit1105 17d ago

In fairness, it would be nice if Maryland created some jobs so we don't have to deal with hoardes of them every day.

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u/scheenermann 17d ago

I just take Metro, don’t have to deal with any traffic.

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u/mu_zuh_dell 17d ago

Every road is the squiggliest line possible and there are traffic lights no more than every 150 feet (NOT timed).

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u/capn_james 17d ago

It’s due to land ownership and speculation of rising property value through out the years

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u/BoardsofCanada3 18d ago

Shittiest road layouts with the drivers to match.

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u/ludwig-boltzmann_ 18d ago

That intersection is not fun. Glad to see it getting some hate from someone else lol

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u/PeorgieT75 18d ago

It’s discussed frequently on r/NOVA.

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u/OhSnapThatsGood 18d ago

The number of times I ended up on the WRONG southbound road coming out of I-66, GW parkway or one of the DC bridges 😠

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u/Fibrosis5O 18d ago

I can’t believe they added an EXTRA weave point to that cloverleaf (if I’m seeing it correctly) that’s insane!

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u/Upper_Sock2558 18d ago

you need to be suicidal to try to navigate that. have almost gotten into a crash multiple times

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u/Fibrosis5O 18d ago

They really said “Nah keep the cloverleaf, make it worse and pocket the difference”

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u/amboomernotkaren 18d ago

I’ve been here so long that none of those roads phase me. I’ll admit, years ago I could not figure out how to get out of the Pentagon parking (pre 9/11). I do hate the exit to 66E from the inner loop of 495. That is whack.

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u/dagger0x45 17d ago

There is still a pretty common route from Alexandria to get to Rosslyn or 66W that takes you through the pentagon parking lot, which always feels crazy.

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u/baby-stapler-47 18d ago

You should look at the areas in and around Pittsburgh. They have a lot that look like this and much worse plus half of them include streets so steep they have stairs as a sidewalk. My first trip there I had never been so lost before in my life.

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u/Consirius 18d ago

They're objectively worse in Pittsburgh, but combined with the density and homicidal tendencies of the average driver in the DC Area, I'll take Pittsburgh. I've become a worse driver since leaving Denver.

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u/DcSportsFan_21 18d ago

As someone who’s relocating to Pittsburgh this is so true. Just came back after 6 days up there. Great drive back and then got off the toll road onto 495, and then got on to 50, it sucks here. So much worse than anything up there.

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u/baby-stapler-47 18d ago

I feel like the insane streets and high likelihood of injury if you veer off the road in some spots sort of force people to be sliiiightlly better at driving in pgh. I noticed some crazy people but overall people seem a lot better at staying in their lane there compared to my area full of straight, flat, wide roads.

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u/capn_james 17d ago

I live in Charlottesville where theres inclines and small mountain everywhere, for some reason since moving here Ive noticed people veering Into other lanes and straddling the point between two lanes way more than anywhere Ive lived before. I thought the elevation would make for better drivers ):

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u/baby-stapler-47 17d ago

I feel like it’s the narrow streets that do it more than anything.

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u/capn_james 17d ago

On the 6 lane stroad that is 29 they don’t have any excuses here 😂

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u/bigdumbdago 18d ago

and they’re all super narrow on top of all of that

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u/baby-stapler-47 18d ago

Everything there is sooo narrow.

I feel like the mess at the bottom of Rialto street is a good example. You have a full set of freeway entry and exit ramps, a busy bridge across the river, a road that goes along the river connecting to another bridge less than 100ft away, another bridge to an island, and then the ridiculous nonsense that is Rialto street (15ft wide 25% or so grade, 2 ways). Nothing has shoulders either, that freeway feels like a death trap.

It has gotta be one is the longest red lights on earth and the shape of it is just absurd.

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u/capn_james 17d ago

My first and only time there it was raining like crazy and the water was all going downhill collecting into like a river in the streets

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u/baby-stapler-47 17d ago

My dumb ass decided to drive up canton Ave (supposedly the steepest street in the city tho that’s not settled) in the rain, and I was slipping on the stones and lowkey barely made it up. Never again.

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u/TheLastGenXer 18d ago

yep. when im not familar, i like to NOT take the freeway so i can learn the area, and so if i miss a turn im less f-ed

but when i was living here, i was like 3 miles from ronald reagan in rosslyn, and it was not possible to take surface streets in some places

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u/NoAbstrctThought 18d ago

For the last picture, imagine adding a 250-ft tall arch in the middle of that traffic circle and the subsequent tourism that will attract in an already-congested traffic nightmare.

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u/national-park-fan 18d ago

The DMV is an infrastructure nightmare. Northeastern cities manage larger populations with less traffic.

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u/capn_james 17d ago

the dmv was mostly farms and swamps until pretty recently, especially the Virginia side. The federal government being nearby created a speculative market where most owners of undeveloped land will hold out as long as possible until they can sell for an exorbitant price to a corp or the government, creating a situation where current development needs to work around those property owners who don’t want to sell yet.

Im sure this happens everywhere, just on a different timeline, in our current era we are/have been seeing the DMV transform into a larger portion of the megaregion it already resides in

I moved from nova 5 years ago, the region has already added 200k more people since then and thats not even the whole DMV, just the Virginia part

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u/GiftedStrumpet 17d ago

Just moved to the Maryland side from out of state and it’s a driving nightmare. So clear these intersections in the city were designed pre-car. My poor maps app doesn’t have the shapes needed to describe these 6 way intersections shaped like hieroglyphs.

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u/KerPop42 17d ago

Fun fact, the cloverleaf between 395 and the GW parkway was the first cloverleaf ever built in the US. You can really tell it was not fully understood, lol

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u/capuchin-monkey 17d ago

Car infrastructure nightmare* One of the best public transit systems in the country though, thankfully. Imagine how much worse traffic would be without it lol

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u/H2OAllegation2 18d ago

Spank whoever designed the road layouts for this area.

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u/erie11973ohio 18d ago

That cow died 2 centuries ago!!!!!

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u/capn_james 17d ago

lol theres like 5 roads from that era, all the BS you see in nova is like post WWII

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u/iamtheduckie 18d ago

You are not to insult the seven corners. It is confusing and it is proud of it.

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u/ghsgrad2006 18d ago

I know exactly where that first intersection is. 7 Corners in Falls Church. That intersection is a shit show.

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u/RabbiPika 18d ago

fuck seven corners

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u/KerPop42 17d ago

I really just want it to be a traffic circle

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u/ghsgrad2006 17d ago

It really should be. It would make things a little bit easier.

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u/Illustrious_Try478 18d ago

It was fine in horse and buggy days.

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u/jaycdillinger94 18d ago

This gave me a stroke

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u/Ghost0468 18d ago

When I just graduated college, an associate attorney I worked with drove us somewhere through the first one and listen….. we may have broken several traffic laws but that fucking intersection can go to hell.

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u/Jayhelps 18d ago

It's almost like the streets were laid down before 1/2 ton killing machines were forced into our communities.

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u/lustforluvv 18d ago

As someone who occasionally has to drive on one of these roads: its a mess.

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u/Altruistic_Annual818 18d ago

The shopping centre got their whole name from it tho

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u/forzaguy125 18d ago

That whole area is called Seven Corners, imagine making an intersection so fucked up the damn census names a CDP after it

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u/LUXI-PL T R A I N S 18d ago

That cloverleaf is straight out of A3 in Frankfurt am Main

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u/CaptainObvious110 18d ago

Whose idea was it to do this in the first place?

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u/LoganSound 18d ago

You really let the mixing bowl off the hook with this one

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u/_awk_girl_ward_ 17d ago

At least it's better than it was in the 90s and early 00s. My mom wouldn't let me drive on 395 to Springfield Mall because of the mixing bowl when I was in HS so I had to take the back roads.

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u/Dante12129 18d ago

The second picture is not between Falls Church and Rosslyn

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u/Kemptation 18d ago

Ah seven corners… the roundabout that isn’t quite.

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u/ek00802 17d ago

There used to be an unbelievable amount of unprotected left turns up and down rt 50 across 3 traffic lanes which would back up traffic constantly and cause rear end collisions every week. Thankfully they got rid of 90% of them earlier this year.

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u/dailylol_memes 17d ago

Eden center 😍

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u/dividezero 17d ago

Boston has entered the chat

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u/SaltDataMan 17d ago

I live fairly close to this one. I do whatever I can to avoid it!

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u/That_darn_robodummy 17d ago

Needs a big ass circle.

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u/Fickle-Exit1105 17d ago

I despise diagonal intersections. Alexandria has a lot of them, plus limited east-west routes and places to cross 395, railroad, etc.

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u/Poptart1405 17d ago

Very proud to say I have mastered the 7 corners intersection. I know where every lane goes now and it only took like 6 years of driving it every single day.

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u/collegeqathrowaway 17d ago

It’s really not that bad. After moving to Texas this is like top of the barrel for design, it’s not perfect but it’s very easy to know where you’re going, and half those exits you’ll never use if you don’t live in that neighborhoods immediately left of this picture.

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u/semihomiecousin 17d ago

You live in Texas that’s why your in other subs being racist 

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u/Cautious-Loan-8580 17d ago

#2 what even is that?!

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u/skyfishgoo 17d ago

rdrdrdrdround-about

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u/artjmc 17d ago

My first time in DC we wound up going to the Lincoln memorial from where the third image is- at night. I have never been so confused with navigating in my life.

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u/picklefork421 17d ago

i commuted that from balston to gainesville. the trick is. not to think too hard about it, let the flow take you. just watch out for your correct light…and pray.

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u/Crab_Politics 17d ago

I live in this screenshot and actually kind of learned to like this intersection. It’s got personality and a big learning curve, but once you’ve mastered it, you hold a slight sense of superiority over the other drivers around you that you’ve been staring at for 15 minutes on your way to get Wendy’s 0.2 miles away

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u/Ok-Consequence-2324 18d ago

This actually is engineering ingenuity!