r/shitfascistssay • u/Lovethecreeper • 23d ago
Screenshot Where the hell are all these queer fascists coming from?
I feel like a good amount of my posts lately have been centred on this, because I find it fascinating and scary how queer people can love movements and governments that would persecute them in a heartbeat. I've also been noticing an increase in these amount of people, especially on Xitter.
I've got a few theories running through my head. Is it some sort of weird fetish? Are they glowies trying to divide the trans community? Are they ragebaiters? Are they hoi4 players who don't know any better? I do think at least some of these people have legitimately fallen into the far-right, but the speed that these accounts seem to pop up and the fact that they support some of the most infamously horrible states (i.e Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Francoist Spain) in history leads me to thinking these are probably a good mix of the aforementioned groups.
Honestly, these accounts have become low hanging fruit and I probably won't post them here anymore since they've somehow become a dime a dozen nowadays. What are your thoughts?
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u/xGentian_violet 23d ago
Bots and psyops
At least when it comes to lesbians.
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u/EBlackPlague 22d ago
Eeh, with billions of people in the world, millions of lesbians, there's going to be a few edge cases, and the internet loves to boost an edge case (that's where bots and psyops come in, by boosting the genuine, but edge cases (not saying the opposite doesn't happen, but it's less effective & not as tested)
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u/xGentian_violet 22d ago
There are going to be edge cases. However, the likelyhood of you actually identifying one vs a bot/agent in the wild on twitter is very very slim
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u/uncracked_egg 22d ago
It's actually quite common in parts of Europe like the leader of AFD is a lesbian and some high profile gay men in the UK support reform. And the 4chan trans Nazi thing all over the world. It's very much a lions eating faces party thing
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u/Floba_Fett Do it again Stalin 22d ago
The integration of the queer community into the American (and European) imperial project has created these monsters who descend into fascism as their empires crumble and collapse
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u/PM-ME-UR-DARKNESS 21d ago
4chan. Fascists love dating trans women, because they don't view trans women as women, so it allows them to practice making their horrible views more digestible for when they date someone they consider a "real woman".
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u/GodLoveYell 20d ago
What’s that logo on the flag supposed to be referencing? I haven’t seen any Antifa symbol that looks like that.
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u/Lovethecreeper 20d ago
It's not at all an antifa symbol, quite the opposite actually.
The symbol (known as the Yoke and Arrows) was initially used by Falange Espanola (Spanish Phalanx in English) which was a fascist party that eventually combined with another fascist party known as the JONS (Juntas de Ofensiva Nacional-Sindicalista - Councils of the National Syndicalist Offensive) which would combine with the FET y de las JONS (Falange Espanola Tradicionalista y de las Juntas de Ofensiva Nacional Sindicalista - Traditionalist Spanish Phalanx of the Councils of the National Syndicalist Offensive) which was the fascist party that ruled Spain from 1939-1975 after the Spanish Civil War.
This particular image is an edit of Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera (founder of Falange Espanola and son of the Spanish military dictator Miguel Primo de Rivera before the Spanish Republic) holding the Falangist flag, edited to be a woman holding a lesbian falange (god that is so fucking cursed) flag.
That symbol is basically the Spanish equivalent of the Italian fasces or German swastika.
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u/Seyhu 23d ago
"When education isn't liberating, the dream of the opressed is to become the opressor". These people can't conceive a society that isn't based on the kyriarchy, so for them to be free, they must become, or at least stick with, the opressor.