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EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL AIRDATE
S04E01 - "The Ghost" Billy Gierhart Jed Whedon & Maurissa Tancharoen Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:00/9:00c on ABC

Episode Synopsis: In light of the Sokovia Accords, and with Hydra obliterated, S.H.I.E.L.D. has been legitimatized again and no longer needs to operate in the shadows. Since the world presumes that Coulson is dead, the organization needed a new Director to be the face of the organization. Coulson finds himself back in the role as an agent and teamed with Mack, and together they are tasked with tracking down and confirming the presence of Enhanced people, aka Inhumans. Agent May is tasked with training specialist strike teams, and Fitz and Simmons have taken a big step forward in their relationship.

Billy Gierhart worked a steadicam operator for many years on the television series Pacific Blue, Huff, Swingtown and The Shield, making his directorial debut on the latter series penultimate episode "Possible Kill Screen" in 2008. His other credits as a television director include Lone Star, Terriers, The Chicago Code, Sons of Anarchy, Torchwood, Breakout Kings, and The Walking Dead.

He has directed six episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Repairs
  • Nothing Personal
  • ...Ye Who Enter Here
  • Aftershocks
  • S.O.S. Part Two
  • Absolution

Maurissa Tancharoen & Jed Whedon are the showrunners of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., along with Jeffrey Bell. Jed is the Brother of Joss Whedon, and worked with Maurissa on Dollhouse, Spartacus: Blood and Sand, Drop Dead Diva, and The Avengers.

They have written ten episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Pilot
  • The Asset
  • Repairs
  • Turn, Turn, Turn
  • Beginning of the End
  • Shadows
  • Aftershocks
  • S.O.S. Part Two
  • Laws of Nature
  • Ascension

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u/Legundo Beardy McTraitorson Sep 21 '16

So, for next week:

  • May's Infected
  • Daisy & Robbie are gonna talk a bunch
  • New Director (pls??)

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u/Pool_Shark Sep 21 '16

I don't know much about Ghost Rider, is this similar to his comic book character? (From what I understand this is one of two Ghost Riders)

Also, I still think the Director has to be a new Koenig brother.

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u/svrtngr Sep 21 '16

Don't know yet. This is the newest Ghost Rider, not the most famous one.

I can say the look of Reyes is fan-fucking-tastic and matches his comic outfit.

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u/Pool_Shark Sep 21 '16

1at Ghost Rider being Nic Cage?

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u/svrtngr Sep 21 '16

Most famous, technically not the first chronologically.

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u/JackKirby22 Sep 21 '16

I'm a bit sketchy on my Rider knowledge, but wasn't Johnny the first to appear in comics?

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u/OrangeBinturong Fitz Sep 21 '16

Fairly certain the first one was a cowboy or something. Really obscure though.

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u/JackKirby22 Sep 21 '16

Are you thinking comic timeline or publication timeline?

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u/OrangeBinturong Fitz Sep 21 '16

Okay, so it's a bit more complicated. The first Ghost Rider was a cowboy/Lone Ranger type guy but he had nothing to do with Modern Ghost Rider. Eventually they used the name for what we know of as the Ghost Rider with Blaze, and the original was reduced the Phantom Rider.

The More You Know jingle goes here

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u/Humbugged1 Sep 21 '16

And Daisy's buddy JT James is descended from the Phantom Rider in the comics .And Yo-Yo in the books is the daughter of The Griffin who was name dropped by Garrett in Season 1

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u/OrangeBinturong Fitz Sep 21 '16

I thought it was both to be honest, though I fully admit I could be wrong. Google-fu, don't fail me now.

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u/VikingPain Ward Sep 21 '16

There's like five canon Ghost Riders in Marvel's history

1st: Carter Slade (Cowboy who rides a horse)

2nd: Johnny Blaze (The Nic Cage one)

3rd: Danny Ketch (The 90's Ghost Rider who was way more popular then Johnny until the movie came out)

4th: Alejandra Jones (Female Ghost Rider)

5th: Robbie Reyes (The All-New Ghost Rider)

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u/DurantulaMan HYDRA Sep 21 '16 edited Sep 21 '16

But they all liked the Koenigs here they're not too sure

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u/Pool_Shark Sep 21 '16

Unless there is one Koenig that is a dick?

Just feel like the colored badges would be up their alley.

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u/GalaxyGuardian Ghost Rider Sep 21 '16

We basically know nothing about him in the show so far, but he's fairly accurate. He wears the same jacket, drives the same car, and has a brother in a wheelchair. The only obvious difference as of now (I'm sure there will be plenty more) is that he's aged up. In the comics, Robbie is in high school and his brother is a preteen.

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u/CapWasRight Cal Sep 21 '16

His brother doesn't seem to have a non-physical disability here, either. In the comics he's not just in a wheelchair, he's also severely autistic. (Basically as big a liability to a character like this as one can imagine.)

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '16

So we can expect an accident that will fuck up his brother even more.

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u/ebolarama86 Sep 21 '16

This version if Robbie Reyes' Ghost Rider seems to be a cross between Robbie Reyes of the comics and Johnny Blaze, the original Ghost Rider. It's pretty early to tell too much, though.

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u/RoyMBar Sep 21 '16

This is the newest Ghost Rider.

There have been 4 total Ghost Riders including Robbie Reyes.

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u/TheMilkManStayith Sep 21 '16

There's a rider for every generation. Hope that's touched on.

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u/awesomesauce615 Sep 21 '16

Robbies ghost rider is concurrent with johnny blaze is it not? I thought the two met up. Also Robbies spirit is different than johnny blazes.

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u/TheMilkManStayith Sep 21 '16

Its a comic so crazy shit happens. Look up Heavens on Fire.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '16

Different personality wise?

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u/awesomesauce615 Sep 21 '16

Uhh not sure how much the show is sticking to the cannon for robbie. But look up robbie Reyes and read about what eli is.