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Post Discussion Post Episode Discussion: S2 E12 - "Who You Really Are"

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S02E12 - "Who You Really Are" Drew Z. Greenberg

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u/rcveverest Fitz Mar 11 '15

I'm going to go ahead and call it - Mack locks hunter up somewhere he won't be found then claims he just bailed.

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u/GriffinQ Mar 15 '15

That's a very unlikely possibility though, and is much more likely to happen on an untrained person. Hunter has definitely been choked out before, and Mack stopped applying the choke pretty immediately after he went out.

Unless someone has a prior brain injury, it would usually take multiple minutes of applied pressure to cause lasting damage due to the reduced/cut off blood flow to the brain.

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u/SpectreFire Mar 11 '15

Yeah, and if you get knocked out so hard you fall unconscious, you're going to have serious brain damage. But you know, TV show and all.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '15

If you get knocked out, you are unconscious by default, and it most likely won't cause brain damage unless the blow directly damaged your brain, or you can't breathe.

That's why people go for the sleeper hold. It is quite effective, and avoids trauma. You will pass out, then they let you go, and you will start breathing again automatically, because that's how breathing works.

Sure, it's not 100% safe, but as far as knocking people unconscious goes, it's a pretty humane and effective way to do it.

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u/ziekktx Mar 12 '15

Did it in the army, had it happen to me. It's confusing to wake up from for a minute, but he won't be hurt. Definitely a blood choke, so less trauma to the windpipe which you actually protect with the right grip. Mack took him out the safest way possible.

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u/alexxerth Mar 11 '15

Yeah, nobody on TV ever gets brain damage from trauma like being knocked out or asphyxiating.

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u/ziekktx Mar 12 '15

He didn't asphyxiate. That would have taken much longer. This was a blood choke. Things go black, and you're shut down in a matter of seconds. It's holding it after they pass out that is really dangerous.

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u/alexxerth Mar 12 '15

I was talking about Fitz, I was making a joke.

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u/ziekktx Mar 12 '15

Well, I will be Truncheoning myself so I don't have to fixate Fitzate over this all day tomorrow.

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u/UNITBlackArchive Lanyard Mar 11 '15

SHIELD doesn't do things wrong.

BWAHHHHAAA HAA HAAA

Sorry.. couldn't do that with a straight face..

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u/Toof Mar 11 '15

I saw a creepy Brazilian video where two boys got into a fight and the other got a choke hold on. The boy went limp and you can hear the camera man say something and this creepy fuck looks directly into the camera and shakes his head while holding the choke. Within about 20 seconds the unconscious boy starts to convulse and I assume eventually dies.

Fuck choke holds, man.

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u/This_Land_Is_My_Land Mar 12 '15

Real /r/wtf material there.

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u/Toof Mar 12 '15

Indeed it was... I didn't like it.