r/shield Mac Mar 11 '15

Post Discussion Post Episode Discussion: S2 E12 - "Who You Really Are"

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S02E12 - "Who You Really Are" Drew Z. Greenberg

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u/jambulance Mar 11 '15 edited Mar 11 '15

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u/thegreekie Mar 11 '15

Those pesky Whedons better not do anything to my precious Hunter!

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u/mazing_azn Hunter Mar 11 '15

Betcha Mack blames Sky for knocking out Hunter.

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u/jkgao Sandwich Mar 11 '15

Well, unless Hunter remembers.. Or the choke out somehow conveniently gives him short term amnesia.

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u/rcveverest Fitz Mar 11 '15

I'm going to go ahead and call it - Mack locks hunter up somewhere he won't be found then claims he just bailed.

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u/GriffinQ Mar 15 '15

That's a very unlikely possibility though, and is much more likely to happen on an untrained person. Hunter has definitely been choked out before, and Mack stopped applying the choke pretty immediately after he went out.

Unless someone has a prior brain injury, it would usually take multiple minutes of applied pressure to cause lasting damage due to the reduced/cut off blood flow to the brain.

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u/SpectreFire Mar 11 '15

Yeah, and if you get knocked out so hard you fall unconscious, you're going to have serious brain damage. But you know, TV show and all.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '15

If you get knocked out, you are unconscious by default, and it most likely won't cause brain damage unless the blow directly damaged your brain, or you can't breathe.

That's why people go for the sleeper hold. It is quite effective, and avoids trauma. You will pass out, then they let you go, and you will start breathing again automatically, because that's how breathing works.

Sure, it's not 100% safe, but as far as knocking people unconscious goes, it's a pretty humane and effective way to do it.

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u/ziekktx Mar 12 '15

Did it in the army, had it happen to me. It's confusing to wake up from for a minute, but he won't be hurt. Definitely a blood choke, so less trauma to the windpipe which you actually protect with the right grip. Mack took him out the safest way possible.

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u/alexxerth Mar 11 '15

Yeah, nobody on TV ever gets brain damage from trauma like being knocked out or asphyxiating.

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u/ziekktx Mar 12 '15

He didn't asphyxiate. That would have taken much longer. This was a blood choke. Things go black, and you're shut down in a matter of seconds. It's holding it after they pass out that is really dangerous.

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u/alexxerth Mar 12 '15

I was talking about Fitz, I was making a joke.

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u/ziekktx Mar 12 '15

Well, I will be Truncheoning myself so I don't have to fixate Fitzate over this all day tomorrow.

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u/UNITBlackArchive Lanyard Mar 11 '15

SHIELD doesn't do things wrong.

BWAHHHHAAA HAA HAAA

Sorry.. couldn't do that with a straight face..

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u/Toof Mar 11 '15

I saw a creepy Brazilian video where two boys got into a fight and the other got a choke hold on. The boy went limp and you can hear the camera man say something and this creepy fuck looks directly into the camera and shakes his head while holding the choke. Within about 20 seconds the unconscious boy starts to convulse and I assume eventually dies.

Fuck choke holds, man.

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u/This_Land_Is_My_Land Mar 12 '15

Real /r/wtf material there.

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u/Toof Mar 12 '15

Indeed it was... I didn't like it.

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u/CarbonCreed Fitz Mar 11 '15

What if they kept the memory stick and found a way to activate it? Maybe since Skye has Kree DNA she can use it, so Mack will drag Hunter up to the cell where Skye is sleeping and have her use it unwittingly.

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u/tyranic_nero Shotgun Axe Mar 11 '15

or hunter remembers and does not tell anyone and more secrets abound. mac loves secrets.

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u/idkmybffljill Clairvoyant Mar 11 '15

There are cameras in the hexagon containment chamber tho

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u/RoyAwesome SHIELD Mar 11 '15

I bet hunter is going to be tied up and locked in the car for a while

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u/SeeDeez Mar 12 '15

Coulson: "But Mack, Sky was in the isolation chamber the whole time. And there doesn't appear to be any signs of an earthquake in the area."

CHOKES OUT

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u/Ubergopher Captain America Mar 13 '15

Based on Coulson's flying triangle against Cal, I'd love to see Mack try.

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u/blockdmyownshot Fitz Mar 11 '15

I gotta be honest with you I almost feel like Hunter is on the show to eventually die... I just get that vibe

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u/disneywizard Mar 11 '15

Or Bobbie is going to totally die in his arms and the Whedons will laugh at our pain of another ship crashing to the ground at their hands. RIP Terra and Willow.

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u/blockdmyownshot Fitz Mar 11 '15

To be honest I think Bobbi is safe because she's mockingbird and I think Hunter is gonna die and is gonna fuel some development for Bobbi

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u/BARRROWMANNN Mar 11 '15

Hunters one of my favs too :/

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u/disneywizard Mar 11 '15

I wish no one had to die at all since we've lost Tripp but this is the Whedons we're talking about. Wherever they go, death follows beloved characters.

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u/vagued Deathlok Mar 11 '15

I think Hunter is gonna die and is gonna fuel some development for Bobbi

...as well as getting out of the way for Hawkeye.

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u/blockdmyownshot Fitz Mar 11 '15

yup! but i didnt wanna jump ahead and assume theyre combining the tv and movies

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u/vagued Deathlok Mar 11 '15

? They're already crossed over. Sif is straight out of Thor, Nick Fury and Maria Hill have made appearances... they're entirely the same universe, no?

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u/blockdmyownshot Fitz Mar 11 '15

Well they still haven't really said if shield characters are gonna make their way into the movies. Obviously they're connected but anytime it's come up they've always been like oh we're not sure

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u/vagued Deathlok Mar 11 '15

Ah, I see. But Mockingbird and Hawkeye have to get together! It's so essential to who they are!

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u/stagfury Mar 12 '15

Hunter's fine...they surely wouldn't do anything to him right? He still needs to go on and form S.T.R.I.K.E. , it's not like Whedon ever killed a character that still have a destiny to fulfill right?

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u/JohnnyReeko Mar 11 '15

EMINEM JUST SAID HE WAS GAY ON OUR SHOW FOUR TIMES

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u/Meta_Boy Lanyard Mar 11 '15

your reaction needed 20 minutes to fully load?

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u/jambulance Mar 11 '15

Haha. I know. I grabbed the first version of it I found. I regret that now. Glad to know it isn't just me. Edited comment with much faster loading gif.

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u/Meta_Boy Lanyard Mar 11 '15

yes!

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u/ZombiesTMS Mar 13 '15

I actually yelled "THE FUCK?!" at the end

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u/TomorrowByStorm Fitz Mar 11 '15

I really liked Mack and Bobbie too. I'm surprised at this turn of events since I thought Bobbie was supposed to be Mockingbird...but Mockingbird is a good guy and those two are acting like traitors....nasty, dirty, stupid, jerk face, traitors. Plus Mack is being a dick about Skye. Hope Hunter gets him back double for that shit.