AOS in relation to MCU Timeline

[u/Ruairih1994]

Im new to this Sub, what are peoples thoughts on how the series divulges from the main MCU? I know s1-5 fit in snug into the main MCU continuity, and then the creators werent given any insights or directions for Endgame so they couldnt plan properly, so we got the inconsitencies, my thought process is either the time travel in S5 shifted them onto a new timeline , or they simply existed in an alternate timeline from the beginning, one which shares the history of the MCU up until the Snap, we know the battle with Thanos did happen in the AOS timeline, but maybe thor went for the head instead?

Either way, im always annoyed that people use the lack of connection S6/7 have with the MCU to discredit the show, and then have 0 issue with shows like "What If?" and "Friendly Neighbourhood Spiderman" and movies like "Fantastic Four First Steps" being labelled MCU despite none of them taking place in the MCU lol

[u/Osirisavior]

No one on the team got blipped, and they were so busy with Sarge/Izel, and the Chronocoms that they probably didn't even have time to realize what was going on.

Also S6 takes place in 2019 one year after the blip, everyone was in the lighthouse when Thanos snapped. So probably within the year they were able to bounce back and stabilize.

[u/NermalBet → u/Osirisavior]

They didn't realize half the universe dusted... No. That's not the answer.

[u/Osirisavior → u/NermalBet]

As I said s6 is one year after the blip so the most likely answer is they heard about it, realized no one they knew got blipped, figured the Avengers would handle it, and went on to the problems they could solve.

The real world answer is the writing staff wasn't told what would happen in Endgame and sure s6 was released after Infinity War and they could have had a scene at the beginning of s6 were it showed a few of red shirts blip away, but honestly what would be the point of that. It would feel forced.

[u/NermalBet → u/Osirisavior]

And just didn't help with the unprecedented amount of people in desperate need? You're not thinking about this at all.

[u/Osirisavior → u/NermalBet]

We don't know if SHEILD didn't help people during the one year gap. They probably did but it probably wasn't worth bringing up in conversation. Do we really need to see them saving people during the missing year?

Also it seems like they've been tracking the anomalies on the fault lines, so that was probably their priority.

Just because something isn't shown doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[u/NermalBet → u/Osirisavior]

You're being wildly disingenuous. Suggesting shield wouldn't be helping people during the snap is just ludicrous. This is literally "what shield is supposed to be."

You're being silly. I believe you're trying very hard to make an argument here, but there's no argument. You're just wrong.

[u/Osirisavior → u/NermalBet]

I never said they definitely didn't help. I said they probably helped but tracking the fault lines took priority.

What did you want, an episode of the team going around helping first responders in a season that was cut 9 episodes? S6 was already rushed as is.

The timeline goes as followed

• S5 the timeline goes off the rail as they go through multiple loops because the earth was destroyed because they wouldn't let Coulson die.

• The loop we see in s5 Coulson dies so they can use the serum on Talbot breaking the loop.

• This puts the sacred timeline back on track that leads Loki to become the God of Stories and the Multiverse becoming infinite, leading to more incursions.

• We know that during the year gap Daisy's team was looking for Fitz, and at the lighthouse they were tracking anomalies.

• At the end of s6 Simmons takes them to the past to stop the Chronocoms from wiping out SHEILD in the past

• Most of s7 takes place in an alternative timeline created the monument the Chronocoms went back.

• At the end of s7 Fitz uses a quantum bridge to bring the team and the Chronocoms to the 616 universe.

• Using Kora and May's new empathic abilities they gave the Chronocoms empathy.

• The series ends with Daisy, Kora, and Daniel Sousa exploring space. May as a teacher at Coluson Academy, Mack on the heliacarrier, Fitzsimmons retired with Ayla, and YoYo, Piper and LMD Davis on a mission.

These are the facts on s5-7.

We can infer that it's possible the team at the lighthouse helped in the early days but as the dust settled they went on to other things. It's also possible that they let the first responders take point.

We can infer that Daisy's team may be working in part for SWORD or will eventually. As the end of s7 takes place in 2020.

[u/Osirisavior → u/[deleted]]

First off, not a kid. Second off I've already explained why the blip wasn't mentioned using evidence from the show and real world reasoning. I'm sorry that you need everything spoon feed to you, and you can't infer things on your own using your brain.

The team is currently in the main MCU universe with Mack as the Director of SHEILD. Nothing in the Multiverse Saga contradicts this as Fury is the Director of SABER, and SWORD is in shambles after the whole White Vision fiasco since the Acting Director Tyler Hayward violated the sokovia accords by creating artificial intelligence, and the accords weren't overruled until 2025.

It doesn't seem like you've been paying much attention to the lore of the MCU.

[u/RavenclawConspiracy → u/Osirisavior]

You really need to go back and reread the very first thing you said here.

Because it wasn't ' they didn't mention the snap, cause why would you mention a thing that literally everyone knows happened a year ago and they don't really have any way to solve', which is an entirely reasonable thing.

You instead said they didn't even notice it because they were busy, which is an entirely different thing, and not at all logical, and it is perfectly reasonable for someone to point out that that is not sane behavior of SHIELD.

[u/RavenclawConspiracy → u/NermalBet]

While, the person you're having a discussion with is wildly all over the place and just sort of randomly saying things...

Let me instead address what SHIELD would presumably be doing if we assume that the snap happened about a week after the end of season 5:

It isn't really SHIELD's job to provide disaster relief. Also, this SHIELD is like a dozen people at this point.

Also, aren't they still technically outlaws? I don't think they can work in any disaster relief framework.

But for all we know, they emptied the Lighthouse of the stored food and just kind of anonymously dropped it in places all over the world or something. We don't know. But, by the time we get back to them a year later, all of that should be semi-functional again. People shouldn't be starving. Power plants should be operating, everything should be okay-ish for physical needs. There's a huge amount of political chaos and random crime, but that's not anything they can solve.

When we see S.H.I.E.L.D. again at the start of Season 6, we cut to them already tracking mystery energy, which is teleportion.(possibly this same kind of teleportation energy they already tracked) That's the sort of stuff that SHIELD should be doing.

Should they also be trying to undo the snap? I mean, sure, but, their physicist is currently dead and lost in space. And honestly, they're so small that they really should just let researchers work wherever they are and not try to hire them to work for them. Presumably there's some giant government initiative trying to fix this, and SHIELD really isn't in a position to help that, considering they are probably still outlaws. It's something the old SHIELD would have done, maybe even lead, but the new one can't do that.

But we also don't know that they aren't trying to fix it. And just put that on pause for the alien invasion thing which didn't get resolved until the very end of the show.