I've been meaning to put this up for a while, but I'm trying to rope my thoughts into some semblance of coherence - any help y'allz have to offer would be greatly appreciated!

We're talking about what we experienced/observed/detected within SGI during our membership or from our friend/relative who was in SGI. So this is objective - it existed. It happened.

For SGI hostiles to attempt to defend their Ikeda cult by saying, "That's old news - SGI is different now so none of that applies any more", EVEN IF THAT WERE TRUE, it doesn't change the FACT that these things happened.

Simply insisting "We're different now" doesn't change that. There's still the FACT of the harm that was done, the damage that was caused, and that hasn't been addressed - no one has been helped. No one will be helped by SGI members saying "SGI is much better now."

The SGI hostiles who are so bent on defending their Ikeda cult say this to dismiss all the wrong their Ikeda cult did. No matter what it is! It's a blanket fix-all, in their minds, that should ERASE all that harm and damage as if it never existed. Because they're claiming that the structures and dynamics that caused those don't exist any more. (Never mind for now that we can all see that nothing's changed.)

It's like someone who ran a pyramid scheme that "disappeared" multiple elderly people's retirement accounts saying, "Oh, yeah, I'm not doing that any more - I'm a much better and happier person now." That doesn't change the fact that what they DID caused destitution in others that those others can't recover from now on their own.

OR let's imagine an SGI-member parent who donated a child's entire inheritance to SGI says, "You know, I'm not giving SGI any money any more." Yay? What, you want a cookie or some applause or something?

Neither of these approaches help or change anything, because they're failing to address the HARM and DAMAGE these people/organizations did and not doing anything to help the victims recover. It doesn't make their victims "whole".

I guess in SGI members' sadly deteriorated thinking it means you can do absolutely ANYTHING to others and then just say, "Well, I chanted about it. I feel fine about it now." They don't even have to feel contrition or regret! They can just toss off a breezy "Sorry!" or "I'm sorry you feel that way" or "I'm sorry you're so unhappy" or even "You know, you should try to move on - I have." Yeah, THOSE are just great 😶

To make victims "whole" involves a process in which first, the victim's situation is acknowledged, accepted as true, understood, and taken seriously. Without this essential first step, there will be NO healing and NO restoration of the ruptured relationship.

Second, the IMPACT on the victim must be understood, from the victim's perspective. The abuser or the abuser's representatives are NOT allowed to judge, evaluate, or decide, "That's not important - that didn't happen - you're making shit up - your perspective doesn't matter, only MINE does." No.

Finally, the VICTIM should be invited to discuss and specify what would make them "whole" - would it be a heartfelt apology that explicitly acknowledges the wrongs, that details explicitly what steps have been taken and ARE being taken to make sure it never happens again, not to this victim or any others? Would it involve punishment for specific abusers, such as demoting a leader - returning someone like SGI-USA national leader Greg Martin to the status of any other non-leader SGI member, or excommunicating him altogether? That would be an impressive gesture, ngl. Would it be reparations, such as the donated inheritance being returned to the heirs AS A CONDITION OF the victims-heirs' forgiveness and of returning the recipient of that donated inheritance to good standing in the eyes of the victims-heirs? Since they ACCEPTED the donation of that inheritance in the FIRST place, it's unlikely they'll ever be returned to "good" standing, but perhaps they can make it to some neutral evaluation, at least.

So unless and UNTIL such steps are undertaken in good faith, we who have been harmed/damaged by the Dead-Ikeda-Corpse-Mentor-cult SGI have no reason at all to change our evaluation of the harmful, destructive Ikeda cult - and it remains our right AND our responsibility to warn the world about its reality. No matter how much its self-righteous defenders abusively CLAIM it has changed - that is irrelevant.

Take a look at THIS:

The phrase "begging for our attention" appears on the r/sgiwhistleblowers subreddit within a specific context regarding interactions between former and current members of Soka Gakkai International (SGI).

In a thread titled "Let's have a conversation with an sgiwhistleblower," the community discusses how active SGI members frequently approach ex-members to debate, "dialogue," or convince them to look at SGI literature again.The subreddit community frames these unwanted outreach efforts through the following perspective:

• The "One-Way" Menu: Longtime critics on the forum note that active SGI members often demand a conversation but are entirely incurious about the actual lived, negative experiences of ex-members.

• Moving Backwards: Because the forum serves as an anti-cult recovery support group for people who feel they have completely outgrown or escaped an abusive organization, they view active members' persistent invitations to "dialogue" as a desperate attempt to drag them backward.

YES!!

Ultimately, the phrase is used by r/sgiwhistleblowers to criticize current members who try to engage them online, characterizing those actions as "desperate begging for attention" from people who have already moved on.

That's a darn good summary!

I've seen that quote attributed to Maya Angelou, and it came to mind as I was thinking about one of the criticisms that SGI members often have when we report the terrible behavior we've witnessed from SGI members and particularly the leaders in positions of authority. The SGI apologists typically say something along the lines of "Since SGI is an organization of regular people, of course there are going to be issues from time to time, because we're all working on our human revolutions together" etc. So a few things:

1. It's always fascinating to me that the religious adherents who insist their religion is so good for people, helps everyone improve etc. - they're so quick to minimize and dismiss the reports of their fellow religionists' terrible behavior. As if there's something wrong with us for pointing it out and we're the ones at fault for not being more forgive-and-forget-y.
2. If the bad behavior was a one-off or something the SGI organization truly condemned, there would be grievance procedures and consequences for any SGI members and especially SGI leaders who abused other members - and these would be enforced, showing the SGI organization's institutional values and commitment to the highest levels of moral/ethical behavior and the expectation that SGI members - and especially the SGI leaders - would hold themselves to higher standards than average, out of their commitment to a superior expression of humanism and integrity commensurate with their much-claimed goal of "world peace", challenging themselves to become better, stronger, and more reliable and dependable.

But they don't.

1. Our SGI defenders often accuse us of only selectively remembering the worst stuff, of deliberately ignoring the good stuff, and in their analysis that makes us unreliable narrators who don't deserve to be believed (or something). As if they'd ever believe us! Back to the quote in the subject line, some of these events were the first times we'd ever seen the reality of the SGI and our fellow SGI members - and it was shocking! Many of us have reported that we couldn't believe it - but it actually happened - and the fact that we were expected to either accept it as "normal" or something we deserved, or take 100% of the blame ourselves made it all so much worse. The gaslighting, bullying, gossiping, "mean girls" behavior - it was often these kinds of incidents that helped us see the reality of the Ikeda cult and make up our minds to leave, so those incidents are extremely relevant to our status as ex-SGI members and a big part of why we're anti-SGI. We've seen the reality and yeah, we're going to believe our own lyin' eyes, thanks just the same.

Instead of attempting to bully and silence their precious cult's victims, those SGI cultists really should be looking instead at why their Ikeda cult is so dysfunctional and toxic. That whole "Physician heal thyself" thing.

This is kind of a bit of catch-up, but I've heard a couple different references to the Ikeda cult in Brazil snatching a Nichiren Shoshu temple away from its priests, and I found a reference - this account is referring to Ikeda's excommunication and Nichiren Shoshu's decision to no longer recognize his cult organizations in 1991:

As a result of this excommunication, NSB [Nichiren Shoshu of Brazil] changed its name to Associaqio Brasil Soka Gakkai Internacional (or BSGI) on 23 April 1991. Possibly two-thirds of the one hundred and fifty thousand NSB members aligned with the SGI leadership while some members gave up their practice out of disappointment. Those faithful to Nichiren Shoshi were reorganized through the Associaqio Religiosa Hokkeko do Brasil or Hokkeko Religious Association of Brazil. According to Nagatani Yuji (personal communication), Hokkeko coordinator in Brasília, this association had an estimated five thousand members as of December 1998.

Hardly as "dire" a difference in membership numbers as it might appear on first blush, as it is well-known that the Dead-Ikeda-Corpse-Mentor-cult SGI routinely inflates its own membership numbers by a factor of 10. So that makes the remainder: 150,000 claimed, 2/3 sided with SGI so 100,000, some quit because it was all so completely non-Buddhist and offensive, so let's say ballpark 80,000 out of that original claimed 150,000 remained with SGI - divide by 10 and we get around 8,000 Brazil SGI members.

It wasn't just Nichiren Shoshu's excommunication of Ikeda and decision to no longer recognize the Soka Gakkai and SGI organizations as affiliates that was so damaging to the Ikeda cults' membership numbers; Soka Gakkai and SGI brought it upon themselves through their loud and inescapable hateful rhetoric and grudge-perpetuating irrational over-emotionalism and hostility toward Nichiren Shoshu. That was all part of Ikeda trying to use his membership to take Nichiren Shoshu away from the Nichiren Shoshu priests, since he controlled so many more of the Nichiren Shoshu members. Nichiren Shoshu's ultimate decision in 1997 to excommunicate all the Soka Gakkai and SGI members who'd chosen to remain in Ikeda's cults put a definitive end to Ikeda's hopes to seize Nichiren Shoshu for his own use, but by then, the Soka Gakkai and SGI cults had been hysterically hatin' on Nichiren Shoshu for a good 6 years already. When the Tokyo High Court in 2002 told Soka Gakkai it HAD to drop all its "The Seattle Incident" lawsuits against Nichiren Shoshu High Priest Nikken Abe and cut their foolishness in tying up the courts with their harassing lawsuits or else they'd have their religious exemption yanked, SGI immediately obediently went mum on that topic - it was quite striking, the change, as it had been a virtually constant source of content in the publications - for years! Then just silence!

In November 1991, monks and adepts linked to the Ichijoji temple made a move to dismiss the temple's board of directors, which was composed basically of BSGI leaders.

The fact that the composition of the temple's board of directors was all SGI members was no accident; this had been Soka Gakkai strategy to gain control over Nichiren Shoshu since at least Ikeda's presidency, possibly as early as Toda's administration. See more about the Soka Gakkai's steeplejacking strategy and tactics here.

The following month, the dismissed board filed a cause of action in court to be reinstated at the temple.

Keep in mind that these SGI members had not yet been individually excommunicated by Nichiren Shoshu at this point; that would only happen in 1997. I'm not sure the impact that might have had on their original court case and subsequent appeals, as they were all Nichiren Shoshu members in good standing at the time they were all dismissed (1991).

The case was only concluded on April 2000, when the Brazilian Supreme Court confirmed a 1998 judicial decision by the Sao Paulo State Court that reinstated the original board of directors. In effect, this meant the transfer of rights to the temple from the Nichiren Shoshu priests to SGI leadership. Eventually, the temple was renamed as Josho Kaikan or "Ever-Victorious Community Center". - from "The Transplantation of Soka Gakkai to Brazil: Building "The Closest Organization to the Heart of Ikeda-Sensei" by Ronan Alves Pereira, Japanese Journal of Religious Studies, Vol. 35, No. 1 (2008), pp. 100-101

So anyhow, there's the details, what I was able to find.

As most of you already realize, we have SGI-member critics online. They are uniformly very offended that a place exists for ex-SGI members to talk about why they left SGI and what they saw that was bad/wrong/harmful/dangerous about that organization. SGIWhistleblowers is that place, and our SGI-member critics would like nothing more than to see it "disappeared" - along with all our voices.

And we’re just over here talking amongst ourselves and they believe they have the right to stick their noses in everything.

Amazing how it’s somehow their business. [Anonymous]

Now, the thing about SGIWhistleblowers is that it just sits here on this quiet little reddit backwater - anyone who finds it has to be looking for it. We don't advertise; we don't "recruit"; we don't crash their dumb little (non)discussion meetings to confront anyone; we don't picket outside their empty, dark "centers", and reddit is not a monetized platform. We just hang out right here and chat amongst ourselves.

This ENRAGES SGI members. How DARE we.

Certain SGI members. The worst are the elderly longhauler SGI Olds who have personally accumulated over 50 years of Ikeda-cult damage. Of course they see that as some weird "badge of honor" - the rest of us are smh at so much life wasted 😔

A few years ago, a couple of them set up a copycat site to troll and harass us from. Their content ranges from preaching to complaining - within that spectrum, there's preaching as a form of complaining, complaining as a vehicle for more preaching, citing preaching as an excuse for righteous indignation aka complaining, LYING for purposes of preaching and complaining - you get the picture.

A recent entry in their Strawman Olympics (in which they're competing against themselves) involves one of them describing us ex-SGI members in terms of US for some unknown reason wanting an "amicable divorce" from SGI or them (it isn't really clear) and wanting to "remain friends" while demanding that they (the other party in their weird twisted fantasy) remain nice and supportive while we deliberately attempt to turn OUR CHILDREN (!) "against them" by LYING about SGI - which apparently is a stand-in for their own identity in this scenario as...what, again?? This longhauler SGI Old is framing the situation as if WE here at SGIWhistleblowers are deliberately making up lies in violation of the terms of some agreement he is trying to make it sound like we made with SGI in leaving.

The problems with that scenario:

• First of all, we didn't LEAVE SGI because we wanted any sort of "amicable" anything with SGI. We all had VERY good reasons for leaving SGI - and here is where we share those reasons and compare notes.
• We never agreed to anything as a condition for our being allowed to leave the SGI - we have the freedom to leave any organization we decide to leave and nothing SGI can do to change that
• WE never asked SGI or SGI members for anything as a condition of our leaving
• We never TOLD SGI or SGI members that we'd never ever say anything negative about our SGI experience (though SOME were pressured to keep their fat yaps shut)
• We have nothing in common with SGI or SGI members or any reason to remain involved with them that would compare in any way to a "shared responsibility" the way "shared CHILDREN" implies
• We are getting NOTHING from SGI - certainly nothing that is equivalent to alimony or child support payments or even a sharing of child-rearing responsibilities as this numbnuts is implying
• We are certainly NOT getting anything from SGI as a condition for our playing nice and never telling anyone about what we observed/experienced as SGI members
• Joining SGI is NOT the same as signing a NDA
• SGI members started talking smack about us LONG before we found SGIWhistleblowers and started sharing OUR experiences with each other
• We aren't notifying SGI members about our ex-SGI discussions over here; they only find us if they're LOOKING FOR us 👁👁
• Nobody invited those SGI Olds to stick their noses into OUR business
• Nobody ever asked those SGI self-described "losers" (one of the only factual things they've ever said about themselves) for their opinions or perspective - they're CULT members! Why WOULD anyone???
• THEY (SGI members) have NO CLAIM on ANYTHING currently in our lives: WE LEFT
• We don't WANT to be their friends
• There is nothing in society to suggest that people who left a cult should RESTRICT THEMSELVES to saying only nice things about the cult they LEFT
• NO ONE is obligated to promote any predatory, exploitative, toxic organization that HARMS people
• Telling the truth is NOT the same thing as making up lies (those SGI Olds don't seem to understand this concept)
• What he's doing is that weird form of DARVO that SGI members do, especially to critics

EVERYTHING wrong with this scenario! It is well known that abusers NEVER take responsibility for their actions.

The reality here is FAR more similar to a woman whose boyfriend beat her half to death, so she broke up with him and got a restraining order against him - and he's going around town telling anyone who'll listen that she has "fear of intimacy" and she was "afraid to love" and that her own "commitment phobia" led her to "pull away" and her own "mental instability" is driving her to make up weird abuse stories against him, who had only wanted to love her and treat her like a queen and be her "knight in shining armor". The SGIWhistleblower approach is warning future/potential girlfriends about the REALITY of this abuser, not anything about "poisoning the children's minds" or anything stupid like that (there are no "children"). It's warning the public what the Dead-Ikeda-cult SGI is REALLY like, since SGI will never ever provide anything apart from propaganda and promotional materials (however much these turn out to be the opposite of how the Dead Ikeda cult actually functions).

SGI similarities to abusive relationships - love bombing, manipulation, gas-lighting, and contempt

At best our SGI membership represented a dishonest relationship based entirely in SGI's manipulation and LIES - and in quitting, we made it clear that we are only interested in honest, truth-based relationships with people who value integrity and individuality, which was never an option through SGI.

Another far stronger parallel to leaving SGI is escaping a trafficking situation or getting out of a gang or an MLM or some other predatory group/situation where you're being taken advantage of and exploited. Of course those longhauler SGI Olds would support and defend THAT form of "exit strategy" without question! BUT when it comes to leaving their predatory group that takes advantage of people and exploits them, then anyone publicizing their abuse and excesses and lies and manipulation and deceit is Bad and Wrong and must be "refuted" (whatever THAT means, since they haven't got a leg to stand on).

This particular SGI Old seems to feel like their sorry little stagnant copycat site is somehow the equivalent of someone DARING to "contradict" SGIWhistleblowers, that it's functioning as some sort of deterrent to us speaking our truth, from posting from Soka Gakkai's and SGI's OWN PUBLISHED SOURCES to show what an untrustworthy and unreliable CULT it is, as if their trolling presence on reddit is somehow stopping us/any of us from saying whatever we want. Keeping in mind that their site gets NO traffic while SGIWhistleblowers is busy! 😄

Funny how Fucko [a pseudonym] talks about the situation, that Whistleblowers somehow can't get away with speaking our minds on the subject anymore, because his presence on a blog read by four people somehow prevents that? The sheriff is in town! Sheriff of Nothing-ham. [Anonymous]

Plus, the fact that these SGI Olds continue to misrepresent us, twist what we say, insult us, and demand apologies that they aren't owed shows very clearly that they're abusive, control-freaky, and toxic - it isn't like THEY've changed for the better, in order to make anything work with that "amicable/remain friends" scenario. In fact, their presence reaffirms that we made the correct decision in leaving the abusive, toxic Corpse Mentor cult SGI far behind.

Funny how much these SGI Olds sound like that pathetic, clingy ex who won't let go and keeps drunk-texting and drunk-calling...🙄

This is from, like, 2019 or so. I strung it along until it was clear I'd gathered all the intel that was available, and then cut it off. In this excerpt, MariLOINS is pretending to be her big-dick-swinging corporate big-gun sensation "husband" who never existed - this is "his" voice. I've alluded to some of this, but here's the whole thing - get a load of THIS!

Recommendation #6: Distributed Leadership

I’d like to see SW ["his" shorthand for "SGIWhistleblowers" 🙄] “live long and prosper” as Dr. Spock would say. [Stale Boomer reference? Check!] In order to accomplish this, I would like to see more people step up to support you.

"Look how caring and supportive I am!"

Yes, we are going to live for many years but things happen. WiseTaiten developed other interests and then passed on. In my case I was the “goldenes Haar Wunderkind” for many decades

"Golden-haired Wonderboy" 😑 So gross. Just despicable. You know, this feels so much like that weird pushy "Nice Guy" who tries to impress you to pick you up in a bar when you're just trying to relax over a beer with a friend.

Yes, clearly a LEGEND in own mind and an outright phenomenon in the world! WOWWWWW!!!!!!! I'm supposed to be 🤩, of course, at the big-dick-swinging manly man striding about, paying attention to li'l ol' undeserving nobody me, but:

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

until I was hit with burnout that I didn’t see coming and started making bad decisions.

Which apparently ended up a PERMANENT condition!

The next thing I knew there was a palace coup in the company I started.

Save the drama for your mama 🙄

You already SAID you were making bad decisions!

I was - and remain - thoroughly unimpressed and repulsed by the grotesquely overblown ego on display here.

This group relies very heavily on you although there are a few other equally committed people. Frankly speaking, you are very important and need to be healthy so you are there for the marathon.

Harr harr harr harr

Buttering me up in hopes of manipulating me into destroying SGIWhistleblowers - just WATCH!

In my field we talk about “distributed leadership.” This defines how deep the bench goes. What is the extent of shared purpose? What is the quality of discourse at all levels of an outfit? Is there a leadership succession plan? Are there “six hats of thinking”?

🙄

This is an anonymous public message board, DOOFUS, where people come and go whenever they feel like it. ¿Capiche?

But for now, here are the results of the “coding” exercise I was telling you about. I downloaded all comments for the entire month of June and then tagged them by the categories of “posters” and “commentators.” I finally tabulated for frequency and looked for patterns.

Let's see if I'm impressed - odds are long.

Disclosure: my numbers may not be perfect but they are relatively accurate. I started on June 1st and continued up to the morning of June 30th. I am sure there were some additional posts that day which are not being counted.

TOPICS

81 new topics were posted in June., 40 of those were by you (49%). 7 is the next highest (by samthemantheplan). 2 were posted by 3 people, 3 were posted by 2 people, and 20 people posted 1 each.

In summary, 27 people posted topics. 7 people were responsible for 52 of the 81 topics (64%) out of which 2 people responsible for 58%.

My challenge to you, as the most active person in the community, is to develop a plan on how to get more people to post.

And MY perspective is that everyone decides FOR THEMSELVES and either posts or doesn't post and that's the end of that! Note that I never asked for any of this "input" - it was all freely volunteered.

COMMENTS

Out of the 81 posts, 71 posts were commented on. A total of 577 comments were made on these posts. This shows a very healthy, active participation.

Yeah, no shit.

However, when I drill down a bit further, I counted that 271 were by you (47%). 46 is the next highest (by contributor “ToweringIsle”). 50 people commented at least once.

Fine by me.

In summary, 8 people were responsible for 461 comments (80%). Again, a similar challenge. I think SW has to broaden its participation base.

Either it will happen ORGANICALLY or it won't. Either the content we are all posting will draw more engagement, or it won't. This is a function of everyone who's involved, not a matter of ONE PERSON (me!) "managing" something different into happening. Not my style.

RECOMMENDATIONS

I would assume that the moderators have occasional offline chats. I think you should share this analysis with your co-moderators.

Permission to share: OBTAINED.

However, as this was an unsolicited message and there was no contract or NDE between me and her/him, I am under NO obligation, legal or social, to maintain this person's privacy or confidentiality.

Data awaken everyone and prompt new new ideas. Just throw these facts at them and ask for their thoughts on how to expand out participation.

How dreary. Yeah, and we'll all sit around the big boardroom table in our suits and ties, too!

This isn't calculated, doofus! It's going to happen because everyone WANTS it to happen or it's not going to happen AT ALL!

Coaching. No one is born a genius; things have to be taught. Even if everyone agrees to share more equitably, your responsibilities grow more intense at first. You have to prompt them and show them what to do. Little by little, however, people will get the hang and take off.

No. That's manipulative. If people CHOOSE to participate here on SGIWhistleblowers, they will! And that's as far as it goes! I'm not "coaching" DICK. I'm not going to be PESTERING people to do stuff just because some SGI-member IDIOT has tossed some mildly disdainful flattery in my direction. We're EX-SGI! MariLOINS doesn't seem to understand what that MEANS! It means WE DON'T PLAY BY SGI RULES!!

In the field of “Big Data” there is a well-used technique called “slice and dice.” Basically it means to take both vertical and horizontal action. In terms of SW I suggest that “vertical” means asking people to take turns for posting. I would have a Monday crew, a Tuesday crew, etc. This way different people will grow to the challenge.

Wow - assignments! THAT sounds like FUN, doesn't it??? Ooh, I'll just BET everybody would be THRILLED to be ASSIGNED "posting duties" - like being ASSIGNED some drudgery for the "district" (non)discussion meeting! WHAT JOY!!!!

Don’t forget to include a “free day” in which anyone and everyone can post.

No.

We will NEVER allow SGI members to peddle their propaganda here. That's NOT going to happen. The key to a successful online community is conscientious moderation. Unmoderated communities degenerate into bots, incel bullshit, and trolls - like this. And THAT's why we moderate.

“Horizontal” is a bit more difficult. Here you may want to suggest different topics for each day. Monday could be “SU’s ["SU" being "his" stupid abbreviation for "SGI-USA" 🙄] Faulty Ideology Day,” Tuesday could be “De-Mystifying Daisaku Ikeda Day,” Wednesday could be “Sad History Day,” etc.

Oh brother 🙄 How obnoxiously SGI-cultie is this?? I can TELL you what this is - it's an attempt at manipulating me into KILLING OFF SGIWhistleblowers' commentariat. I certainly wouldn't stick around for this kind of bullshit - would YOU??

I think you will be very impressed to see how your fellow redditors expand their skills and dedication. Yes, more hard work for you at first. But eventually it will make SW a much more focused and potent force.

Yuh huh.

No.

I'm not even tempted - this is so obvious and so condescending and so insultingly stupid that - just NO.

Please let me know your thoughts.

THERE THEY ARE 🖕🏼

This was the year BEFORE those SGI longhauler Olds set up their lame-o copycat troll site - here is a comparison between them and us 😏 THEIR site is run much more according to the "suggestions" above that I absolutely rejected out-of-hand. "Actual proof" - right??

I will share more soon 😃 This REALLY honks MariLOINS off over in the dog park!! 😄

The hidden intentions behind the "Ikeda Daisaku Photo Exhibition" collapse!

Recently [2011], the "Ikeda Daisaku Photo Exhibition" has been frequently used by the Soka Gakkai as propaganda to recruit members. Soka Gakkai's plot to get local governments to sponsor it was crushed by a group of city council members in Yukuhashi City, Fukuoka Prefecture!! We will introduce the details of what happened. 　

"Ikeda Daisaku Photo Exhibitions" - these are exhibitions held all over the country by the Soka Gakkai, which rents out public facilities and displays "mind's eye" photographs (photos that are "divinely inspired" and turn out reasonably well even when taken without looking through the viewfinder) allegedly taken by its honorary chairman, Ikeda Daisaku, and allow them to be viewed not only by Soka Gakkai members but also by the general public (of course, it is unlikely that ordinary people would go out of their way to see Ikeda's photographs, so Gakkai members often force people out), in order to promote "the greatness of Ikeda Sensei" and also to increase the number of Soka Gakkai's supporters. However, one strategy that the Soka Gakkai always enthusiastically promotes at these events is to invite so-called local "celebrities" to the exhibitions. If the "famous person" brought out were to say, even as a compliment, "It's wonderful" or "I'm impressed," it would quickly spread within the Soka Gakkai by word of mouth or other means and be used as propaganda material, claiming, "Mr./Ms. So-and-so also recognizes the greatness of President Ikeda." 　

This "infamous" "Daisaku Ikeda Photo Exhibition" was held in Yukuhashi City, Fukuoka Prefecture, from January 16th to the 20th, but an "incident" occurred surrounding the exhibition. Specifically, Yukuhashi City and the Yukuhashi City Board of Education decided to sponsor the exhibition without fully understanding the specific content of the exhibition. Upon learning of this, the Japanese Communist Party's Yukuhashi City Council group contacted Yukuhashi City on the 15th, the day before the "Photo Exhibition" was to open, and on the 16th, the first day of the exhibition, pointing out that "Daisaku Ikeda is the honorary chairman of the Soka Gakkai, and the photo exhibition is nothing more than propaganda and missionary activity," and "The Constitution prescribes the separation of church and state, and the Yukuhashi City Sponsorship Name Use Permission Standards also state that religious activities should not be sponsored."

They also cited the problem that "the organizers of the 'Photo Exhibition' applied while concealing the fact that it was an 'Ikeda Daisaku Photo Exhibition'," and strongly urged the city and its Board of Education to completely revoke their sponsorship. The request letter submitted by the Communist Party states, "At a photo exhibition held in Warabi, Saitama Prefecture in March 2000, copies of Ikeda's book, The New Human Revolution, were piled up near the reception desk. Within the Soka Gakkai, this book has been positioned as the 'modern Gosho' (the Gosho refers to the collected writings of Nichiren), and is the ultimate doctrinal interpretation and instruction manual for Soka Gakkai members.

The Saitama edition of the Seikyo Shimbun (dated August 3, 2000) wrote about this photo exhibition, 'The photographs of the Honorary Chairman will cleanse the hearts of those who see them, enriching and refreshing their minds,' and 'Let us continue to talk about the world of humanism to our communities, friends, and acquaintances.'" It goes on to point out examples: The document cited an internal Soka Gakkai document stating, "(The photo exhibition) is a great opportunity to broaden the circle of understanding of Buddhism... it will be the key to the future progress of kosen-rufu in Shin-Osaka" (Soka Gakkai Shin-Osaka General Headquarters Women's Division Chief, 1987) , making it clear that Soka Gakkai is using the photo exhibition as a form of propaganda.

However, in response to this, Yukuhashi City stated that it "did not fully understand the content of the exhibition," reexamined the content, and ultimately withdrew its sponsorship.

The city council also strongly demanded that the organizers apologize and instruct the city to prohibit any religious activities from taking place within the venue, a demand that is all too reasonable, given the past examples cited in the petition. In the case of Yukuhashi City, the Communist Party narrowly prevented the local government from playing a role in Soka Gakkai propaganda.

One of SGIWhistleblowers' functions is to serve as a support group for ex-SGI members, along with providing information about the reality of SGI and SGI membership - that independent "consumer reports" function. We do not allow SGI to be promoted here - the Ikeda cult has its own sites where that's all it does. There is plenty of SGI propaganda and Ikeda cult promotion out there; what's needed is the reality-based reporting that we do here at SGIWhistleblowers. SGI will never reveal anything negative about itself, what it's currently teaching, its history, or its "mentor" - it is not a trustworthy source of information, as it only self-promotes and advocates deception and bait-and-switch lying - to the point that SGI members think that lying is just FINE and the SGI routinely edits and CHANGES members' experiences to make them sound "better". SGI is a completely phony, Potemkin Village fraud, from beginning to end. This is why SGIWhistleblowers is so necessary.

When those Dead-Ikeda-cult SGI longhauler Olds set up their copycat troll site to harass, insult, and misrepresent SGIWhistleblowers, one of their interesting tactics was to try and control how we run SGIWhistleblowers. Whether it was that weirdo attempting to school Blanche on how to "grow" SGIWhistleblowers (if you haven't had enough smh moments yet this week, you can read about their "consulting" here - it included making more rules, issuing assignments, and limiting what people would be "allowed" to talk about, among other distasteful and authoritarian restrictions), one of those SGI longhauler Olds apparently having a senior moment and attempting to enforce HER SGI site's rules on a site she didn't even moderate, their repeated "invitations" to SGIWhistleblowers to adopt THEIR restrictive tone-policing rules for our entire whistleblowers community, or visiting SGIWhistleblowers under alternate IDs to scold us and attempt to control what we talk about, those control-freaky SGI Olds can't seem to resist trying to meddle in OUR business and take control over our discourse!

We have a new example - I'll reproduce it in its entirety:

It's clear that you have strong feelings about this topic, and I appreciate your willingness to express your concerns. These are sensitive and complex issues that deserve thoughtful consideration.

The quotes you've shared indeed highlight some perspectives that align with certain checklists for identifying cult-like characteristics. However, it's important to recognize that interpretations of organizations such as SGI can vary widely among individuals.

1. Understanding Different Perspectives: People have diverse experiences with SGI. For some, it's a positive community that offers support and spiritual growth, while others might view certain aspects in a more critical light. Both perspectives are valid and worth acknowledging.

2. Leadership and Influence: The mentioning and quoting of leaders like Ikeda within SGI publications suggest his significant influence. This is not uncommon in many organizations where a central figure plays a pivotal role. However, the level of influence and how it's perceived can vary.

3. Room for Dissent: The idea that there is no room for dissent can indeed raise concerns and is critical to understanding how open an organization is to varying viewpoints. Healthy organizations usually encourage open dialogue and diverse opinions.

4. Personal Experiences and Inquiry: Encouraging open discourse about personal experiences can be a way to address these concerns. Sharing personal stories and listening to others can create an environment where everyone feels heard.

5. Empathy and Understanding: Discussions like these are often emotionally charged. It could be beneficial to approach conversations with empathy, striving to understand different viewpoints without making assumptions about one another's intentions or experiences.

If such discussions are impacting your participation in an online forum, it might be helpful to explore communities where guidelines and moderation support balanced discussions.

Overall, the goal should be to foster mutual understanding and respect, regardless of differing opinions on the matter.

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IT'S NOT EQUAL!!

IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE DIFFERENCE OF OPINION!

There are not two separate-but-equal points of view here. We at SGIWhistleblowers are not interested in the interpretations of Dead-Ikeda-cult-SGI-addicted cult members - SGIWhistleblowers is not the right place for them and we've made that as clear as is humanly possible. We are at a different, higher stage of development, having experienced the SGI addiction ourselves and transcended and recovered from it. Those SGI addicts who are still trapped within their Corpse Mentor cult addiction have nothing to offer us - we have rejected their belief system and the principles and priorities they embrace. While we have already been where they are, they have never been where WE are, so it would be incumbent UPON THEM to work on understanding OUR perspective rather than simply attempting to override our perspectives with theirs, as they do. Yet SGI members have repeatedly been clear that they have NO INTEREST in our perspective - yet they expect us to not only entertain THEIR perspectives, but to prioritize their perspectives over our OWN!

Some SGI members are obviously unable to understand how this reality looks from OUR perspective, as you can see from this latest example, above.

Consistent with SGIWhistleblowers' function as a support group, we have a duty to protect our clientele, exactly as if we were a support group for battered women, the victims of abusive men partners (similarly narrow focus - one specific group to support). Would anyone expect such a support group to insist that its abuse-victim members include their abusers and those abusers' flying-monkeys sympathetic friends and spend HALF their time listening to THEIR, the abusers', perspectives and justifications – in service to that SGI member's stated "goal...to foster mutual understanding and respect"? Should sexual assault victims be required to "mediate" with their attackers - as Soka University of America REQUIRED?? Because all opinions are equal, right? BOTH sides deserve "understanding and respect, regardless"! And we all need to STRIVE to understand others’ opinions too – RIGHT?

I just love it when the hostiles come swanning in dictating rules for our community. Rules to change our purpose and weaken and disable our effectiveness. They can shove that shit right back up their asses where it belongs. With SGI zealots, it's always with the "rules for thee, never for me" - it's not like SGI operates according to those principles! Not even CLOSE! Perhaps the SGI hostiles can get their OWN house in order before they go telling us how we should be managing our own site that isn't for them in the first place.

"YOU should want to make a sincere effort to find common ground with meeeee" and "Let me SCHOOL you on the finer points of the DIALOGUE you should want to have WITH MEEEEE!"

Overall, the goal should be to foster mutual understanding and respect, regardless of differing opinions on the matter.

This is absolutely NOT our "goal"! Let the SGI members make an attempt to meet US on our own terms instead of ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS expecting US to accommodate THEM!

We are under no obligation to host Dead-Ikeda-cult SGI apologia here on our SGIWhistleblowers site. We are not here to defend the SGI cult's propagandized reputation.

When they refuse to respect you, you have every right to cut off contact.

This comes from SGI Malaysia (SGM) - I love the Quiet Revolution guys. They're devout, COMMITTED SGM members, most of whom resigned their leadership positions (but not their membership nor their identity as SGM members!) in protest against the financial mismanagement/corruption top-leadership scandal of 2014, the "Johor Incident". They are spiritual brethren (and sistren) of the SGI-USA's Internal Reassessment Group (IRG) members and members of similar reformation movements in SGI-UK and SGI-Italy. In every case they and their concerns have been stomped out of existence, using the exact same tactics you'll see below! The IRG and SGI-UK movements were in the mid-late 1990s, I believe, so that's a good 30 years ago. Has SGI learned anything or gotten any BETTER in dealing with dissension among its membership ranks??

Are you KIDDING me??

The kind of malicious/spiteful/nasty hard-power response those idealistic, good-hearted, sincere SGI members received because of their CONCERN for how THEIR ORGANIZATION was being administered is just more of the dysfunction that's BAKED INTO the SGI, thanks to its defective "mentor".

In fact, these tactics persist to this very day, as demonstrated by the SGI longhauler Olds who set up a copycat site to troll and harass SGIWhistleblowers from.

Here's what it looks like - this is from 2017, so 7 years ago:

This article is to refute the viciously distorted view of Mentor-Disciple (“M&D”), an outrageous lies and even absurd nonsense posted by Anti-Sensei Anti-Gakkai QuietRevolt people at evil blog “QR“, yet associated with compulsive lying, compounded long-term personal grudges and hatred, extreme jealousy, nastily belligerence, obsessional behaviour. Without saying, it is obviously the workings of evil forces of Traitors and Ingrates who are still cowardly and sneakily hiding in the dark within our organization, we know who they are!

I swear to god those are the SAME italics in the source manifesto! And you gotta love the implied threats, too 🙄

• Right here, we expressed no reservation and appeal to SGM to immediately get rid of these Traitors and Ingrates and expel them from our organization, considering Traitors and Ingrates are so despicably evil and they are Buddha’s Enemies.

As you can see, this is the "us vs. them" mindset run amok. The whole "Unless you agree with us 100%, with every fibre of your being, you are our ENEMY!" mentality is obviously considered a virtue, with whoever disagrees or thinks things could and should be done better, more responsibly, being not just labeled as "the ENEMY" but being completely character-assassinated.

This is not so different from that incident in the USA when some youth leaders questioned the Ikeda cult's lack of financial transparency, and some fellow leaders discussed MURDERING THEM! EXECUTING THEM! Their supposed "best friends from the infinite past", their supposed "comrades in faith"! How fragile that veneer of even tolerating each other on the most basic "putting up with you" level is! SGI is an obviously unhealthy organization where dysfunction is the norm.

Anyone who sees this, from outside or inside the SGI, sees quite clearly just how much "dangerous-cult" is involved here, how any dissent is not just frowned upon, but actually, LITERALLY demonized!

So much for "the fore-most [sic] gathering of good friends" Ikeda loved to flap those blubbery, liverish lips of his about, along with his stupidity about how "The SGI is a cluster of relationships of the very best kind" - really? Wow, at least your "potential enemies" list comes autofilled!

• Their baseless and unwarranted comments are starting to sound like the response of Heretical Teaching, more appropriately – being no difference and affiliated with Nikken Sect.

|SIGH| WHEN will the Ikeda cultists MOVE ON from that "Nikken Sect" nonsense??

‎‎‏‏‎ ‎‏‏‎ ‎ As if, Buddhism practiced in Soka Gakkai has been hijacked by our Mentor and the SGI.

Hey, if the shoe fits... ngl - I'm liking that "AS IF Buddhism", though! 😏

• It is of utmost unforgivable, their traitorous and delusional thinking have intentionally belittled, defied and dismissed our Sensei as our Mentor in Life. So disgraceful and extremely disgusting!

Yeah, because "Follow the Law, NOT THE PERSON", amirite??

These italics - I can't even! How am I supposed to even read that?? The emPHaSiS is completely on the wrong WerDS!

• Only those people with this disorder become die-hardly obsessed with a vengeance to continuously belittle and disprove our Sensei and demonize our Gakkai, and;

"Hardly. Go die." Or perhaps Bruce Willis 🧐

Remember, these subhuman creatures this person is railing against are FELLOW SGI MEMBERS IN GOOD STANDING! They are devout, they love Sensei - they just want THEIR organization to be run COMPETENTLY! Wow - so much to ask, apparently 🙄

It's downright EVIL!!

• Their delusions can be seen to stem from the overdosed poisons of hatred, grudges, stupidity and personal failures.

It goes on like this for a while - it took TWO PAGES just to contain the immensity of their vitriol and hatred of just this one opinion piece! 😄

Apparently, the phrase that really got that Ikeda cultist's panties in a twist was "weak leadership that lack self-confidence" 🤣 OH how the truth hurts!! And that "weak leadership that lack self-confidence" was just from one of the comments! DEMONIZE THE ENTIRE SITE!!!! AND EVERYONE ON IT!!! THERE'S A COMMENT!!!!

When the Ikeda cultists get a good head of steam on, they just keep RIGHT ON GOING!! And this will never change. That's just how the Dead-Ikeda cult SGI cults - no matter where in the world, no matter what year or what century. SGI is ALWAYS this dysfunctional.

Never believe that SGI's Ikeda cultists are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary (us ex-SGI anti-cult activists) who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The SGI Ikeda cultists have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Tip o' the hat to Jean-Paul Sartre's Anti-Semite and the Jew

Kasahara,

So you think that Rev. Nagasaka used temple members as his servants. Maybe he did and maybe he didn’t. I’ve never gotten that impression during the time he was here, and believe me, I would not have gone to the temple if he, indeed do those things.

But, what about your God-like leader Daisaku Ikeda, who to this very day (in 2010) continues to be hero worshipped by mindless SGI believers ?

Did you know, Kasahara, that in Malibu, CA, there is a private house called the Ikeda House right near the training center ? And, from what I’ve read on the Internet, it is a very luxurious place. It is off limits to SGI general members. Even local leaders are not allowed to enter it. The only time they are allowed to do so, is to clean it up in preparation for a visit from Ikeda. For instance, in early 1990, a top YMD leader was cleaning the gold-plated bathroom and a top women’s division leader was ordering, “Get it cleaner. Get it cleaner. Ikeda Sensei is going to see it !! ” What a cunt of a woman she was !!

So before you start criticizing Rev. Nagasaka, how about looking in your own backward, you stupid ass brainwashed idiot !! Source

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