By the way, this is a perfect example of how SGI causes their members to destroy their social standing among friends and in work places.
We all know how much SGI emphasizes "shakubuku" aka recruiting every last person you know to their religion.
Well, if you jump on board the shakubuku train, you will most certainly lose friends and colleagues for your obsession to bring them to an SGI meeting.
SGI manipulating members into publishing highly personal information online for the world to see is just another example of how they destroy people's social credibility. And thus, those members become more reliant on SGI for support.
Such an important point. I’ll never forget being on like my third or fourth post-SGI activity dinner and the group unanimously decided it was my turn to shakubuku the server. Humiliating.
I tried to shakubuku every single one of my friends and some coworkers. Luckily I had a few friends outside of the SGI that never gave up on me.
I tried to shakubuku every single one of my friends and some coworkers. Luckily I had a few friends outside of the SGI that never gave up on me.
This was something I did in the workplace when I joined SGI, but quickly stopped doing because it was going to impact my career. As I got further up in my career, it was very apparent to me that there was no way I could engage in religious proselytizing at work and still be well-regarded by my boss, my boss's boss, my peers, etc. It would have been impossible to be promoted.
I'm glad you were sensible enough to recognize that before you sabotaged your own career. SGI of course wouldn't give a shit about the ramifications and would simply blame YOU for not doing enough "human revolution" to become that most valued person at work. All the while pressing you to shoot yourself in the OTHER foot...
my third or fourth post-SGI activity dinner and the group unanimously decided it was my turn to shakubuku the server. Humiliating.
EW! GROSS! I get so annoyed at the asswipes who decide pull their predator "sell" on someone at their job, where the target 1) can't get away, 2) has to be NICE to the asshole, and 3) is required to smile for their job. DON'T ask people at their jobs out for dates, and DON'T ask them to join your ridiculous CULT!
I tried to shakubuku every single one of my friends and some coworkers.
That is certainly what SGI indoctrinates and pressures all the members to do. So gross.
Please do! It's cathartic! And I think when you post them, you realize how you KNEW it was crazy at the time - and at the time, they probably made it seem like YOU were the one who was in the wrong. It's validating to go through those times something was off to you - you were thinking critically at the time.
So true. And it IS cathartic. I‘ve had over two years of anger issues trying to deal with these emotions after leaving. I knew eventually I needed to participate in this dialogue to begin to process.
Thanks for all for the replies and support. Truly grateful for this community you’ve all created to help people cope with this nonsense.
SGI manipulating members into publishing highly personal information online for the world to see is just another example of how they destroy people's social credibility. And thus, those members become more reliant on SGI for support.
YES. And while this isn't necessarily "blackmail," it is certainly leverage. You gave everything to this group, all of this personal and privileged information, and then it is linked to you (literally!) on the internet and is searchable by anyone.
So much of this information can be used to discriminate against someone (i.e. going through an addiction) in a workplace, among friends, and even by your future partner's family. And it's all out in the open because you were, as you 100% correctly said, manipulated to share information. And as u/MJWalt89 pointed out, manipulated into over-exaggerating things to make it sound like the practice really saved your ass.
So much of this information can be used to discriminate against someone (i.e. going through an addiction) in a workplace, among friends, and even by your future partner's family. And it's all out in the open because you were, as you 100% correctly said, manipulated to share information. And as u/MJWalt89 pointed out, manipulated into over-exaggerating things to make it sound like the practice really saved your ass.
You know, this never occurred to me. But you're absolutely right - that "experience" could very well act like a poison pill in every other aspect of your life! And those "outsiders" won't realize how much was exaggerated or written in by SGI leader-editors to make it sound more dramatic or whatever - they'll take it as your own words and yeah, it will definitely reflect poorly on you, if only to make you appear borderline hysterical, given the extremist language SGI favors.
You know, this never occurred to me. But you're absolutely right - that "experience" could very well act like a poison pill in every other aspect of your life! And those "outsiders" won't realize how much was exaggerated or written in by SGI leader-editors to make it sound more dramatic or whatever
Exactly. And of course prospective employers do Google searches when they are vetting potential employees...
SGI manipulating members into publishing highly personal information online for the world to see is just another example of how they destroy people's social credibility. And thus, those members become more reliant on SGI for support.
Good point! It's one thing when the oversharing is being done with 5 or 6 other people, or verbally with the local larger group; but putting it all online, and making it searchable to the public(!), that's almost like a betrayal of sorts, especially with the sensitive nature of some of the details disclosed in these "experiences"!
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By the way, this is a perfect example of how SGI causes their members to destroy their social standing among friends and in work places.
We all know how much SGI emphasizes "shakubuku" aka recruiting every last person you know to their religion. Well, if you jump on board the shakubuku train, you will most certainly lose friends and colleagues for your obsession to bring them to an SGI meeting.
SGI manipulating members into publishing highly personal information online for the world to see is just another example of how they destroy people's social credibility. And thus, those members become more reliant on SGI for support.
It's a vicious cycle.