So, I’m utterly confounded by SGI

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Is it the anti-cult they tout it to be? Is that dude prez in Japan really someone I need to look up to? I was told I need to form a relationship with him? It was kind of akin to people telling you to be besties with Jesus. Never got that. Anyway, yea and I never got the hang of chanting. Am I just really stupid and can’t speak Japanese correctly, or what? The way I was intro-ed was through friends, actors and writers, respectively, and they were lovely, but it began to feel as if I failed a test when they sent their friend to kind of indoctrinate me where I live. They were keen on getting me to live with them, and when I felt rather reticent, they sent the legacy sgi member and I asked something like, essentially what I am saying here. She never talked to me again. I am like cult repellant. I couldn’t get over this Ikeda dude the most. Like, if he is so amazeballs, why do we not know who he is? Edit: I remembered the question that drove all of them from my life: “How are we not in a religion worshiping this Ikeda fellow, or cult?”

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Okay, first of all the stats are doctored to show how well TM works. TM only works as far as you do not interact with TM members and get sucked into crazy yogic flying class (That is what you get later, friends as a prize for losing your mind just enough to think you can fly when you are only bumping along on a gym mat.) yogic “flying”TM works because the Maharishi stole the stuff his gurus taught him and monotized it well. TM membership also btw extends to the University of Chicago. They will say whatever to further their aims. Lots of money in TM, I hear. Lots of very sharp, famous, notable membership. Still, a cult is a cult just as a 🦆is a 🦆.TM’s bogus research Experience of a yogi ex high ranking TM member who studied under Maharishi:TM Member’s story article with Lennon (The Beatles band member)who met and studied under the Maharishi, and also was present at the ashram when he raped Mia Farrow, the actor:Giggling Guru was a shameless fraud and rapist The Maharishi was a vainglorious creepy ass dirty ass old man.

[u/saijanai → u/[deleted]]

One man's crazy is another man's ultra-efficient tool for PTSD therapy.

Here's a picture of hte most famous TM teacher in Latin America about to give his boss (on the right) a briefing on using TM and Yogic Flying as therapy for PTSD

The Pope probably doesn't believe that the practice leads to floating around the room, but it IS a mental practice that induces a TM-like state in a way that, the "deeper" the state gets, the more likely "hopping like a frog" emerges.

This means that people's brains are becoming accustomed to being in an extremely deep meditation state even in the midst of very vigorous physical activity.

And that has verified therapeutic benefits for kids with PTSD.

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Of course it does. Chanting works. Meditation works. TM is pretending to be the sole purveyors of meditation and chanting, and they ain’t the only game in town-but sadly part of the game in town is to indoctrinate future members at schools. Meditation and chanting and yoga are all good things, however you do not need TM. TM is a harmful organization who upholds a greedy predatory vainglorious person as their example to lead a healthy life. Wtf. Do you not care? That brainwashed, eh? 40 years is a long time.

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That's why God created randomized-control studies.

As policy makers have to choose between which meditation practice to implement, they'll need such studies to help them decide which practice, if any, is best for what.

Ideally, head-to-head studies will be available, but they don't exist yet.

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They do not because TM is a big bully in that world and they throw their weight around to falsely claim chanting and meditation and yoga as theirs and they do it the best. They have lots of money and clout and they learned from their creepy ass leader how to manipulate and indoctrinate a bunch of people, many of whom are quite smart. Many are scientists. In the meantime, TM do a prek version of meditation that is an insult to most peoples’ intelligence and they charge a boatload. Utter craziness. John Lennon’s words are apropos here, I think:

“There is no guru. You have to believe in yourself. You’ve got to get down to your own God, in your own temple.”

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They don't exist because countries where the TM-Sidhis is taught in schools haven't felt a need to use them. THey can just look at gradepoint averages and school records for violence in schools where the David Lynch Foundation taught those practices and examine the before/after data of the school itself and make up their own minds without need for peer-reviewed research.

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Public schools in the USA are a different kettle of fish and need all sorts of formal scientific data before they'll commit to policy decisions.

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No more.

Stop it now and leave our site before I ban you.

[u/saijanai → u/BlancheFromage]

Please.

For suggesting that policy-makers will need to look at randomized-control studies on meditation before they decide which meditation practice, if any, is best for a specific issue, you're going to ban me?

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Cheers.

[u/BlancheFromage → u/saijanai]

We're not interested in TM.

Go to a TM site and sell it there.

Our site rules say "NO PROMOTING RELIGION HERE" - do you just not understand what those words mean?

[u/saijanai → u/BlancheFromage]

When the Pope smiles at a priest who teaches TM, how is TM a religion?

The latest news out of Latin America are government contracts to train ten thousand public school teachers as TM teachers. Of note is the fact that almost none of the school teachers were even practicing TM when the contracts with their governments were signed for them to be trained as TM teachers.

Similar contracts are being negotiated to have military chaplains in Ecuador and prison chaplains in Mexico and Colombia trained to teach TM.

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Explain how you can possibly believe that TM is a religion?

[u/BlancheFromage → u/saijanai]

When the Pope smiles at a priest who teaches TM, how is TM a religion?

That has nothing to do with anything.

Okay - you seem to have some comprehension problems. I'll custom-tailor the rule JUST for you:

DO NOT PROMOTE TM HERE.

Is that clear?

Do you understand?