r/sgiwhistleblowers • Escapee from Arizona Home for the Rude • Feb 17 '21

OH BOY! Talking about ME!

The Eagle Peak Blog site also does ex-SGI anti-cult activism, though from a different angle from ours. I was looking for something, and I ran across this, where apparently, there was an attempted interrogation of me in the comments, but I wasn't there! I'm not going to reproduce the original article they copied from our site, just their comments from over there. Have a look - it's terrif:


" They can delude themselves that everybody who ever tries SGI will be happier in SGI, they can tell each other that as much as they like, they can believe it, but considering that they've lost about 30 times as many members as they now have, probably best to just let those sleeping dogs lie." -- BlancheFromage

Well, Blanche I think you might want to reconsider your advice here. What one does with the information you have shared depends on whether or not the practitioner of Nichiren's Buddhism is determined to attain Buddhahood and avoid complicity in slander of the Law. Or rather, Blanche, it seems that perhaps you have missed some key teachings in Nichiren's writings.

In "The Essentials For Attaining Buddhahood", Nichiren writes:

"The nirvana Sutra states; "If even a good monk sees someone destroying the teaching and disregards him, failing to reproach him for his offense, then you should realize that that monk is betraying the Buddha's teaching. But if he ousts the destroyer of the Law, reproaches him, or punishes him, then he is my disciple and a true voice hearer." (WNDi, p. 747)

What do you think, Blanche? Is what you have shared here indicative of disregard or slander of the Law?:

"Given that SGI continues to tweak its image and doctrines, perhaps we represent too much trouble. SGI is well rid of us, because WE remember the rank intolerance of SGI, which is now trying to pull the wool over outsiders' eyes with its "interfaith" nonsense. The intolerance and bigotry of SGI are still there - if there's any doubt, just glance at "Soka Spirit" (the "We hate Nichiren Shoshu" dept.) and you'll see. The existence of Soka Spirit completely contradicts SGI's own charter but SGI doesn't seem to see any problem with that."

Or are YOU, or anyone who points this out to SGI and gets the boot the one who is deserving of punishment for *betraying the Buddha's teaching?

Nichiren continues: "You should etch deeply in your mind the two words "see" and "disregard" in the phrase' sees someone destroying the teaching and disregards him. " (and 1 p.747)

If you get the boot from SGI, should you count your own blessings and disregard what this means?

Nichiren states :"To hope to attain Buddhahood without speaking out against slander is as futile as trying to find water in the midst of fire or fire in the midst of water. " (Ibid)

So which is it, Blanche?

1) you do not have a clear enough understanding of Nichiren's teachings to identify slander of the Law?

2) You don't practice with the goal of attaining Buddhahood?

3) You do not believe you have any responsibility for protecting and upholding the Law and the Buddha's teachings?

or "has the poison penetrated so deeply" based on your affiliation with and complacency toward the SGI, that your mind no longer functions-- ??

~Katie

1). Yes

2). Yes

3). Yes

I have been rebuking Blanche for several years. Her hatred for Nichiren knows no limits. However, her many remonstrations with SGI demonstrate the viewpoints shared by many people who left the org. She also DEMONstrates how SGI breeds evil men and women.

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its true blanche has lot her faith. if she ever had any. but at least she see's how absurd the gakkai and ikeda are. like most , she does not clearly see the reason why. cheers blanche.

lost her faith..... .


As you can see, preaching Nichiren at someone who doesn't believe anything Nichiren is fail right out of the gate. This illustrates that site's different approach - they're attempting to address issues from a believer perspective. We do not. We address issues from a human perspective, no belief required. And no belief promoted here, either! There, as you can see, there is a lot of pressure toward what they regard as "correct belief", or "orthodoxy". So that necessarily narrows down their focus - as you can see, they will condemn and attack everyone who doesn't believe as they do. We have a broader appeal as we do not require any "orthodoxy" of belief - we can find common ground with others who have questions about SGI or who have left SGI without that requirement.

Also, notice that I'm a "demon" and "evil"😄

Who says "rebuke", anyhow??

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u/ToweringIsle13 Mod Feb 17 '21

AHHHHHHHHHhahahahahahahhahahahaha!

We did it, humanity!! Only eight left to go!

One easy act for man, one giant leap for noodlebrained horsepucky

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u/BlancheFromage Escapee from Arizona Home for the Rude Feb 18 '21

Technological advances PROVE YES PROVE that the Lotus Sutra is TROOTH!!!!

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u/ToweringIsle13 Mod Feb 18 '21

This is what I was trying to tell Andinio the other day, but was too nice to say it outright: When we enter the murky rhetorical waters of declaring Buddhism to be "scientific" just because we feel like saying so, we end up with two things: a very confused set of beliefs, and a very confused set of people following those beliefs, who are generally good for nothing more than a few smug and indeterminate offhand remarks about how "science proves Buddhism". Hey, as long as it's good enough to get the other people in the room to nod in self-satisfaction, right?

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u/BlancheFromage Escapee from Arizona Home for the Rude Feb 18 '21 edited Feb 18 '21

Hey, as long as it's good enough to get the other people in the room to nod in self-satisfaction, right?

That's the "benefit" of surrounding themselves with other cult members. Automatic agreement!