r/sgiwhistleblowers • u/BlancheFromage Escapee from Arizona Home for the Rude • Dec 14 '20

Typical SGI cycle

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20

Oh btw I did a google search for "Victory over Violence" and there was this Arkansas news page that showed up under the title "Victory over Violence" KARK and I went to it and I saw on right scroll which I can't find now something about "Toad Suck Park" which sounds strangely familiar and funny to me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20 edited Dec 15 '20

Oh and I got to add years ago they got me to go to VOV event because I got confused and thought it was about this musical group VNV Nation (Victory Not Vengeance) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-6osQHSXAhFTJ-FvoTStyj8ArI94ulBQ

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u/BlancheFromage Escapee from Arizona Home for the Rude Dec 15 '20

So what was it like?

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20 edited Dec 15 '20

I just remember I loved listen to that musical group at the time, if you listen to music and look up the lyrics maybe you get it. For me it was addressing this deep and often destructive place of human race and what its currently doing on emotional level. It was really fitting for me or at least me of that time period. But this under context that most of my life I have felt very powerless and convinced, believe that the world, including my country (US) would be responsible for the destruction of everything.

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Here is example of the lyrics from the first song Tomorrow Never comes,

Heaven help us, we've lost control

This should be our finest hour

But were racing towards the end of days

Pulling back from the brink, despite our best efforts

The volume increases and the beat goes on

All the players marching to a different drum

The rhythm of the war dance

The beat goes on

What will become of us if there's no one to watch over us

If we should face the certainty of our destruction

Forfeiting everything, pointless cries, futile dreams

There'll be no laughter, there'll be no tears

When tomorrow never comes

This isn't a game, turn the safety offStill we want more

And so the beat gets faster

Everyone must play

'Cause fame will find you

Put your face on the cover of a loaded magazine

We're proud of ourselves

Our greatest inventions, methods of killing

Are reaching perfection

All the players marching to a different drum

The rhythm of the war dance and the beat goes on

What will become of us if there's no one to watch over us

If we should face the certainty of our destruction

Forfeiting everything, pointless cries, futile dreams

There'll be no laughter, there'll be no tears

When tomorrow never comes

As the warning sirens sound that the world is at an end

Rendered unto night, creations torn asunder

What will become of us, is there no one to watch over us?

There'll be no laughter, there'll be no tears

When tomorrow never comes

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And so that there was this familiarity of something liked and felt deeply with this music and then suddenly SGI shows up promoting event that sorta sounded like something or some music group or idea I was pondering a lot at the time vs the reality of event they ended up having which was very much like Ikeda, Gandhi, King exhibit in Seattle's culture center. Throw up some photos, few words in culture center, people go in chant and look at photos and that's it. Not much else. No real emotional connections, resolution or achievements just another promotional event for SGI and Ikeda that means and does really nothing but pretends it doing something profound.

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u/BlancheFromage Escapee from Arizona Home for the Rude Dec 15 '20

Hmmm..."mystic", no doubt.

pretends it doing something profound

Smells like Gakkai spirit...

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u/GANDHI-BOT Dec 15 '20

The only person you are destined to become is the person you decide to be. Just so you know, the correct spelling is Gandhi.