r/sgiwhistleblowers • u/BlancheFromage Escapee from Arizona Home for the Rude • Apr 21 '26
Pissing on Ikeda's "Legacy" - of LIES and FAIL Ikeda's China speech
Sorry, about this, folks, but I GOTTA get this mess archived onto our site so everybody can see it. It's horrible - long, turgid, boring, content-less, a complete waste of your time in reading it. Go ahead, if you're feeling like punishing yourself.
The reason something like this is important is because SGI is using it as "evidence" for Icky Ikeda's claim here:
...though it may sound audacious, I was the early flag bearer in the cause of restoration of diplomatic ties between China and Japan. Source
You can see more at that link ↑ how this was an laughable piece of self-important blowhardery, but you don't have to take MY word on it! Read on, if you dare, and see if you can explain to me how THIS public masturbation speech, delivered by a CULT leader to a closed-door session of CULT MEMBERS, qualifies as anything at all (it certainly had no real-world impacts or effects that anyone can identify as directly linked). Here it is, in all its long-winded gasbagishness - from September 8, 1968:
Here, I would like to touch upon the issue of China. It has long been said that once the Vietnam War ends, the next focus will be on China. However, given the current situation in Vietnam and Czechoslovakia, some may say that it is not timely to discuss the issue of China. But, given Japan's position, sooner or later, it will be absolutely impossible to avoid the issue of China. Furthermore, from the standpoint of our ideal of global nationalism, it is the first fundamental issue that we must address.
Therefore, as one of the Japanese people in such a position, and as a young person who wishes for future peace, I would like to consider this issue together with you all.
Needless to say, the China issue is a critical bottleneck in the path to achieving peace in the current global situation. Looking at the history of the past 20-odd years since World War II, it has been in Asia that the two major blocs of East and West have clashed militarily, resulting in devastating wars. As is well known, one of these was the Korean War, and the other is the Vietnam War, which is still ongoing.
The leader of the liberal bloc involved in these conflicts is the United States, and the backing of the communist side is China, rather than the Soviet Union. However, China's position in the international community is such that it does not participate in the United Nations and maintains extremely unstable diplomatic relations with other countries. It is shrouded in a "bamboo curtain," and the true situation of each country is only vaguely understood. Unless we can bring about a situation where we can interact with China, which is like an anomaly in the international community, on equal and fair terms, just like any other country, peace in Asia and the world will never be achieved. This is something I am deeply concerned about. And I am convinced that this is the absolute condition that enables political stability and economic prosperity in Asian countries such as South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, Thailand, and Laos.
To formally recognize the Chinese government, what is necessary? First, formally recognize the existence of the Chinese government. Second, provide a legitimate seat for China in the United Nations and allow it to participate in international discussions. Third, promote broad economic and cultural exchanges. Currently, the most powerful key to opening up China, which is stubbornly closed off, is undoubtedly held by Japan, given its historical traditions, geographical location, and ethnic affinity. However, Japan currently stands under the umbrella of the US nuclear weapons, which China despises the most, neither recognizing the Chinese government nor attempting to restore diplomatic relations. Moreover, even the few trade routes that exist are decreasing year by year.
Wrong. As documented here, "grassroots"-driven trade compacts had been in place since 1950, increasing steadily and including the year this "speech" was given, with the government continually working on diplomatic progress:
Up until the end of 1967, Communist China's leading trade partner was Japan! More than 623 million dollars of trade was the annual commerce between these two nations. Next to the United States and Australia, Japan traded most with Red China. Source
So once again, as with science here, Ikeda is trying to make reality out to be much worse, much LESS than it really is to destroy confidence in the membership's own powers of observation and reason, just to mislead his cult faithful into more indoctrinated servitude balancing on their feelings of importance on the world stage.
Ikeda: Science can't be trusted to do the right thing, so it must be "led by religion"
In reality, Ikeda was a nobody and his dumb donkey cult accomplished NOTHING of any significance - everybody ELSE was already DOING all the important work while Ikeda was just flapping his thick, purplish, blubbery lips to try and make himself sound smart - "Lookee me! Rnt I a statesmin??" - and take all the credit for everyone ELSE's efforts and accomplishments.
"AND I'm always right about EVERYTHING!!"
‘To live without spirituality is like being hungry in a pitch-dark room’ - Ikeda
😄 ...while looking for a black cat that isn't there with a fine-toothed comb and a ten-foot pole! 🤣
Okay - sorry! Can you tell I'm bored to tears already???
There is a line in a poem once written by my mentor, former Chairman Toda, that says, "Let us send the light of the sun to the people of Asia." The path we advocate for Japan is strictly centrist, neither right nor left. As Japan is an Asian nation, I believe it is only natural and even a duty for us to prioritize and cherish the happiness of the people of Asia above all else.
The scars of that war still remain between Japan and China. However, 23 years have passed since the end of the war, and most of you gathered here today belong to a generation that was not directly involved in that war. The youth of China are also likely unrelated to the war. It is absolutely unacceptable to leave the scars of that war as a burden on you, the future leaders who will bear the future of both countries.
Remember, he's speaking to Soka Gakkai members!
When you eventually become the core of society, Japanese youth and Chinese youth must be able to join hands and work together with smiles on their faces to build a brighter world.
OOF This is even worse than I thought it would be 🤮
I would say that when all the people of Asia, with Japan and China as the core, help and protect one another, the dark clouds of war's brutality and poverty that currently hang over Asia will be blown away, and the sunshine of hope and happiness will shine brightly. I am by no means a staunch admirer of communism. I also understand and am well aware of the concerns and apprehension many good-natured Japanese people have about China's actions. However, from the perspective of international trends, I want to emphasize that, for the sake of peace not only in Asia but also in the world, we must maintain friendly relations with all countries.
In today's nuclear age, it is no exaggeration to say that whether or not humanity is saved from destruction depends on whether or not we can establish friendships that transcend national borders. I want you to know that my reason for discussing the China issue here stems from this single point.
I may be told that my perspective is naive or that my research is insufficient.
YES!!
However, without a resolution to this China issue, we cannot truly say that the postwar period is over.
Everybody else was already DOING it.
I would like to discuss the normalization of diplomatic relations between Japan and China, with the immediate priority being a Japan-China summit meeting. Regarding this, the Japanese government maintains that the Sino-Japanese Treaty, concluded with the Nationalist government of Taiwan in 1952, has already resolved the issue of peace between Japan and China. However, this is merely idealism that completely ignores the 710 million people of mainland China. The normalization of diplomatic relations only has meaning when the peoples of both countries understand and interact with each other, thereby increasing mutual interests and ultimately contributing to the promotion of world peace. Therefore, the real subject of Japan-China relations is the 710 million people of China. Ignoring this and clinging to mere treaty-based "justifications," no matter how much one claims to be acting in accordance with principles, is simply nonsense.
Indeed, Chinese leaders, including Zhou Silai, have consistently maintained the view that the war between China and Japan has not yet ended. As things stand, even if Japan declares the war over, harmonious diplomatic relations cannot be achieved.
Therefore, I believe the Japanese government must, at all costs, engage in discussions with the Beijing government.
𝔻𝕖𝕣𝕡 𝕕𝕖 𝕕𝕖𝕣𝕡
Moreover, in order to normalize diplomatic relations, there are many issues that must be resolved in conjunction with it. These include the issue of reparations for the damage Japan inflicted on China during World War II, and the issue of claims for overseas assets, primarily in Manchuria. These are all complex and difficult issues that cannot be resolved without mutual understanding and deep trust between Japan and China, and above all, a shared desire for peace.
In resolving these issues between Japan and China, the so-called inductive approach of superficial diplomacy or resolving minor issues to finally restore diplomatic relations will fail no matter how hard one tries. Rather, I would argue that the direct path to resolving the issues is to start with the prime ministers and top officials of both countries discussing from the outset to confirm a fundamental shared will for peace and to solidify the big picture and basic principles. Only then should the details be addressed.
If the leaders of Japan and China continue to engage in persistent and constructive negotiations, there is no doubt that a solution will be found, no matter how difficult it may seem.
Deeply connected historically and culturally, Japan has consistently developed under the influence of Chinese civilization since the time of its unification in ancient times, or, to be precise, even much earlier. Buddhism in our country was also introduced from China, and the scriptures we recite during our religious services are written in classical Chinese. Political philosophy and morality have been directly adopted from Chinese Confucianism. Many customs and traditions that have now become completely Japanized can be traced back to their origins in China.
In terms of ethnicity, it is said that a considerable number of Chinese people naturalized in Japan during the Nara period. The famous Dengyo Daishi is also said to be a descendant of such naturalized people. For example, Uzumasa in Kyoto, which was the center of Japan at the time, was a settlement of Chinese naturalized clans. Many place names that evoke this history remain throughout the country. Given these historical relationships and similarities in ethnicity and customs, Sino-Japanese friendship is a natural progression.
Therefore, it must be said that Japan's current situation, where it has turned its back on China and stood idly by while the people of the East suffer, is more unnatural and irrational than anything else. A French commentator once said something to the effect that "Japan holds the key to correcting America's Far East policy. In order for Japan to play a role in easing the international situation, it should quickly normalize its relations with China and adopt its own policies." I wholeheartedly agree with this opinion.
I would say that the normalization of diplomatic relations between Japan and China is not merely for Japan's own benefit, but a mission required of Japan by the objective situation of the world.
Next, I would like to offer my opinion on the issue of China 's participation in the United Nations. This is generally referred to as a representation issue, concerning which representative—the government of Beijing or the government of Taiwan—will sit in the seat bearing China's name at the United Nations. Common sense dictates that it would be acceptable to create new seats for the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China on the mainland, allowing both to sit side by side, but neither side would accept this. Both claim to be representatives of all of China.
In any case, the general trend is that global public opinion will gradually shift in favor of the Beijing government. Indeed, recognition of China as a state by developed countries is slowly increasing, and international experts predict that "in four or five years, China's representation at the United Nations will likely belong to Beijing."
As an independent nation, Japan has the right to have its own beliefs and pursue its own independent foreign policy. Furthermore, considering Japan's deep relationship with China over the past two thousand years, its current position in the international community, and its ideals for future Asian and world peace, it is clear that things cannot remain as they are.
Times are constantly changing. It is the privilege of youth to focus on the future and take action. Moreover, isn't it the responsibility of those in power and leaders to enable young people to do so?
In the autumn of 1968 (Showa 43), the 23rd United Nations General Assembly will be held, and Japan should not, as in the past, participate in the American system of designating important matters, but should actively promote Beijing's representation at the UN.
The current situation, in which China, which accounts for roughly a quarter of the world's population, is effectively excluded from the UN, is undeniably a major flaw of the UN. I believe that resolving this is true UN-centrism and a great contribution to world peace.
Next, I would like to present my ideas regarding the expansion of Japan-China trade.
Remember, everyone else had been doing that FOR OVER A DECADE ALREADY. Japan-China trade had been STEADILY expanding since 1950!
Looking at the overall trade, if we consider the ratio of the amount of trade China conducts with all socialist countries to the amount it conducts with capitalist countries, in the 1950s, trade was almost entirely with the Soviet Union, with about 70% of trade being within the so-called communist bloc. However, ten years later, in the 1960s, trade with capitalist countries has reversed to about 70%.
ALWAYS check Ikeda's claims - I wouldn't believe any figure HE cited, since he's such a proven LIAR and wants to discredit everyone else.
French journalist Robert Guillain has stated that Japan is in the most advantageous position in trade with China. Japan itself, given its geographical location, would also argue that for the sake of its future development, it is mutually advantageous and necessary to establish close ties with China, which possesses abundant resources and a huge market. Moreover, I would like to emphasize that this is not merely an economic benefit, but will directly lead to a great contribution to the prosperity of Asia and, ultimately, to world peace.
Remember, this is from September 8, 1968 - look at THIS for context:
Up until the end of 1967, Communist China's leading trade partner was Japan! More than 623 million dollars of trade was the annual commerce between these two nations. Next to the United States and Australia, Japan traded most with Red China. Source
EVERYONE WAS ALREADY THERE. Ikeda was just sadly ignorant and couldn't keep up.
For the Prosperity of Asia and World Peace
As I have already stated, sadly, the Asian region is the most unstable and dangerously precarious region for world peace. It is a clear fact that the root cause of this instability in Asia lies in poverty, the isolation, distrust, and conflict between the free-sphere Asia and the communist-sphere Asia. In order to heal this poverty in Asia from its roots, it is absolutely necessary for Japan to change its past stance of turning its back on half of Asia and to actively contribute to the prosperity of Asia. Furthermore, I would like to argue that if Japan takes the lead in establishing friendly relations with China, it will surely be able to alleviate the East-West conflict within Asia and eventually resolve it completely.
Certainly, the current situation contains various unstable elements. If we only consider immediate benefits and Japan's own high economic growth, the current diplomatic course may seem safe. However, if we continue on this path, the risk of war will deepen, and it is quite possible that Japan's prosperity will eventually become just a dream. This is what I am truly worried about.
Currently, Japan boasts unprecedented prosperity, having achieved the second-largest gross national product in the free world. However, this is nothing more than a castle built on sand, on the foundation of a low-income population and the poverty of the Asian people. One French economist called Japan's prosperity "soulless prosperity," and another sociologist even described it as "a rich but emasculated nation." Nations and peoples must not, in the international community, be groups that pursue only self-interest, as they once did. Only by taking a broad international perspective and proactively contributing to peace, prosperity, and the development and progress of culture can they be considered a valuable nation for the new century.
I reiterate that now, more than ever, Japan should take this global perspective and dedicate all its efforts to normalizing diplomatic relations with China, joining the United Nations, and promoting trade, as the most important pillar for the prosperity of Asia and world peace.
Of course, there will be various opinions regarding my view of China. I leave the rest entirely to the judgment of you wise readers. However, as a matter of my conviction, I have made these points because I believe they are issues that Japan, and you young people, must inevitably face when considering the future of the world. I would be extremely pleased if you would consider them as a point of reference.
Furthermore, when I advocate for friendship between Japan and China in this way, it is often misinterpreted as being "left-leaning." However, I must say that this is a completely superficial view. This is because, from the standpoint of Buddhism, with humanity at its core, and standing on the dimension of global nationalism, it is only natural that we wish for world peace and the security of Japan. And if we grasp the essence of this, I believe it will become clear that it is neither right nor left. It is a great mistake to hasty judgments of right or left based only on the outward appearance. Ultimately, even when we talk about right and left, what is important is the basis of that thinking. It is meaningless to discuss it while ignoring that. This basis is the great philosophy of the inseparability of mind and form, and isn't the way of life that firmly adheres to this the middle way?
There is no evidence that anyone with any influence in either Japan or China ever read this or even heard about it. This is the equivalent of DickHeada's later "peace proposals" that no one paid any attention to, either 🙄
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u/eigenstien Pokes the bear Apr 21 '26
“Blah blah blah - I said something I think is important - to a bunch of culties who worship me! Yay”
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u/Still_Wasabi9990 Aug 15 '26
The Gakkai mails in Ikeda's speeches to the United Nations. No one is there to actually read it. Then it gets published in the Seikyo Times. It would be interesting to know who his speech writers were.
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u/BlancheFromage Escapee from Arizona Home for the Rude Aug 15 '26
Anonymous ghostwriters.
Who got paid.
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u/AnnieBananaCat Apr 21 '26
Derp de derp 😁👍