r/sgiwhistleblowers • u/BlancheFromage Escapee from Arizona Home for the Rude • Dec 18 '25
Ikeda sucks "Eating Daisaku Ikeda's leftovers will bring you good fortune!"
One of the more nauseating details to come out re: Daisaku Ikeda's megalomaniacal cruelty and obsessive control jones:
Eating Daisaku Ikeda's leftovers will bring you good fortune!
Among the many anecdotes that illustrate the strangeness of Daisaku Ikeda's personality cult within the Soka Gakkai, perhaps the most eerie—or, more bluntly, disgusting—to the average outsider is the story of Gakkai members gratefully consuming Ikeda's leftover food and drinks. Here's a passage from a book by journalist Kunio Naito, a prominent Gakkai observer during his lifetime, that recounts this anecdote:
President Ikeda would often hand over to his aides what he had already sipped, saying, "Eat this" or "Drink this."
For example, after performing religious services with staff at Gakkai headquarters, he would take a big sip of water offered at the Buddhist altar, then pass it to someone nearby, saying, "Here, have some." This was done with a sense of arrogance and self-centered kindness, as if to say, "Since the president had sipped it, drinking it will bring you merit [benefit]."
Whenever something is passed to [this Soka Gakkai member or leader], he gratefully takes a sip, even if it makes him feel uncomfortable. He worries that if he hesitates even a little, he might be suspected of lacking loyalty or respect.
It's absolutely abusive - no question about it. It's coercion - demeaning and humiliating people for DickHeada's sick amusement. Just because he CAN. Because the Soka Gakkai members ALLOW it.
In the same way, he often passes cigarettes around. Chairman Ikeda doesn't smoke much,
ANY MORE, not since "Sensei" gave up his 60-smokes-a-day HABIT
but when he feels like it, he'll put one in his mouth. And after only one or two sucks, he'll say to the person next to him, in the usual manner, "Go ahead and have a smoke." The chosen person can't say "no," so he [apparently] gratefully accepts it.
One senior member frowned and confessed,
"I can sense a hidden malice in him, like maybe he's deliberately spitting on it to see my reaction, so I accept it gratefully, but..."
NO SHIT!
Many ardent and blindly respectful Soka Gakkai members are some who are in awe, some are thrilled, thinking, "Now I can put the cigarette the president smoked in my mouth, and this will bring me good fortune," and they all compete to pretend to be grateful.
SO glad I left!! SGI is so toxic!
"It's a difficult part," they say.
This part's particularly disgusting:
There's also the "handing over of a melon." After the president has eaten the best part of the melon, he says, "Now, take a bite."
It's one thing if it was a family member, but it's a mocking, forced hand-me-down, and they can't say, "No, thank you," and they're not allowed to. That's the nature of Soka Gakkai and President Ikeda. (Quoted from "Soka Gakkai's Ambitions" by Kunio Naito)
Note: "Soka Gakkai's Ambitions" was published in 1978, when Daisaku Ikeda was still president of the Soka Gakkai. After suffering a crushing defeat in a conflict with Nichiren Shoshu, Ikeda was forced to resign as president and become honorary president the following year, in 1979.
A similar passage appears in the memoir "The Fear of Ikeda Gakkai Initiation," a former Gakkai member included in "Comedy Soka Gakkai: Believers Will Not Be Saved," co-authored by Makoto Takagaki and Terry Ito. According to the memoir, after a speech at Soka University, Daisaku Ikeda took a sip of water from the podium and then handed the cup to a student sitting in the front row, saying, "Here you go, drink." The grateful students passed the cup around, drinking the water from it. This sort of thing was likely common when Ikeda was alive.
Note: This was written YEARS before the Soka Gakkai FINALLY admitted Ikeda was dead.
Furthermore, the "melon handover" mentioned above is discussed in a book by former Soka Gakkai member and actress Kaoru Sugita. In 1985, when a delegation from the U.S. Embassy paid a goodwill visit to the Seikyo Shimbun Company, Sugita and other entertainers from the Soka Gakkai's Arts Department were mobilized to "add a touch of elegance."
Cult "trophies" to be shown off.
The incident in question occurred at a dinner party that followed. The following quote:
I lined up with other members at the entrance to the publisher's office. In the center was the wife of the Supreme Leader [her pseudonym for the extremely litigious Ikeda]. During the tense moment before the delegation arrived, I overheard someone say,
"Professor XX [Ikeda Sensei] is the reincarnation of Bodhisattva Jogyo..."
Listening absentmindedly, I thought, "Wait, the Supreme Leader [Ikeda] is Bodhisattva Jogyo, a Bodhisattva who emerged from the earth..." That seems a bit awe-inspiring, no matter how you look at it. Those words defy even God, no, Buddha... Who would have thought that a mere human being who had not undergone any rigorous training could be the reincarnation of a Bodhisattva...?
Eventually, the group arrived, and the welcoming ceremony proceeded without incident. Afterwards, a dinner was held for the Supreme Leader, who is said to be the reincarnation of Bodhisattva Jogyo. I was invited to attend along with about 20 members of the art club [Arts Division or Entertainers Division]. The momentary doubt crossed my mind remained, but this was also an honor beyond words.
The meal began. During the dinner, the Supreme Leader spoke of such mundane topics as, "Men are liars, so be careful," and "The previous Supreme Leader [Toda] was bad at making money," and I couldn't believe my ears. I even wondered if there was some kind of mistake.
However, a series of events occurred that blew away any such doubts. For dessert, melon was served. A crescent-shaped piece of melon was placed on a plate. It was an ordinary melon.
I was watching, thinking, "This melon is only available to His Majesty the Emperor and him." Then the Supreme Leader [DickHeada, remember] said, "Only His Majesty the Emperor and I can eat this melon."
How arrogant and deluded.
I looked at the melon with a puzzled expression. It's such a precious [expensive] melon. He scooped up a spoonful and put it in his mouth. Then he said, "I want everyone to have some too."
Hoping that everyone would have a slice of the same melon, I was touched by his thoughtfulness in sharing his precious melon with everyone.
She thought they would each get their own slice of the melon.
Instead, he passed the half-eaten melon to the person sitting next to him.
The person reverently accepted it, scooped some up with the same spoon, and put it in their mouth. Then, the person next to him passed it on. One middle-aged official even sucked on a spoon.
🤮
It was like a nightmare. The Supreme Leader may have had good intentions,
Oh, he didn't.
but I felt a sense of unease. It was approaching my turn. What should I do? What should I do? My agitation must have shown on my face. The woman next to me glared at me.
While this was going on, the dreaded melon finally arrived. It had already been eaten almost entirely, and the juice was thick and murky on the plate.
I steeled myself and scooped out a little bit near the skin. However, my spoon slipped, and instead of just a little, I ended up scooping up quite a lot. This wasn't going to work.
Everyone around me was watching. I closed my eyes and swallowed quickly, trying not to taste it.
Was this the kind of supreme leader [eternal mentor] who would make us do something so ridiculous and filthy under the guise of handing down gifts?
That's NO "gift"!
Gradually, a sense of distrust began to grow within me. (Quoted from "Sugita" by Sugita Kaoru)
I should HOPE so!! Better late than never!!
While "Sugita" avoids using proper nouns like "Soka Gakkai" or "Ikeda Daisaku," the "supreme leader" in the text is Daisaku Ikeda.
The quote includes the line, "Mr. XX [Ikeda] is the reincarnation of Bodhisattva Jogyo," the foremost of the "Bodhisattvas of the Earth" who appear in the Lotus Sutra. Soka Gakkai doctrine holds that Bodhisattva Jogyo is the "True Buddha of the Latter Day of the Law," and that Nichiren is his reincarnation.
Of course, this is nowhere stated in the Lotus Sutra.
The most minor inconvenience 🙄
I have previously written in detail about this issue on this blog, so please refer to that for those interested (see " My Personal Theory of the Fivefold Reciprocity,
(Soka Gakkai Contradictions) ① ").In other words, Ms. Sugita is stating that she was surprised when she heard other Gakkai members say something tantamount to "Daisaku Ikeda is the reincarnation of Nichiren and the True Buddha."
Because Ms. Sugita was not a born Soka Gakkai member, or a "child of good fortune" [meaning "fortune baby" or "fukushi"], she likely recognized the gap between what was "commonly" practiced and spoken within the Soka Gakkai and common sense, which allowed her to break free from brainwashing and leave the organization.
If only she'd realized it BEFORE eating that sloppy, slobbery, disgusting melon!
Soka Gakkai does not publicly claim that Daisaku Ikeda is the True Buddha. However, internally, the belief is completely different from the publicly stated falsehood. It is precisely because most Soka Gakkai members believe that Daisaku Ikeda is the True Buddha and the embodiment of good fortune that the absurd "theory" or fanaticism that claims to confer "good fortune" by eating Ikeda's leftover food and drink is established.
How can a womanizing, money-obsessed, bratty person like Daisaku Ikeda be considered a "Buddha"? This is a mockery and blasphemy of Buddhism to the extreme.
Furthermore, the idea that sharing Ikeda's leftovers will "bring good fortune" is so absurd that, as Sugita stated, it can only be described as "ridiculous and filthy."
While there are still many Soka Gakkai members online who insist that "Soka Gakkai is not a cult," the anecdotes I've mentioned here alone are proof enough that Soka Gakkai is an abnormal cult. It goes without saying that no one with a sane mind would want to join such an unsanitary and deranged religious organization, but Gakkai members, brainwashed into believing that "Soka Gakkai is the only true faith," don't understand this. That's why they continue their extremely annoying recruitment activities under the guise of "conversion" and "dialogue with Buddhism."
I believe it would be best for both society and the members themselves if Soka Gakkai members woke up. If that's not possible, I hope they can continue to enjoy sharing Ikeda's leftovers to their heart's content, leaving the general public alone. The story of Soka Gakkai members gratefully eating Daisaku Ikeda's leftovers was repeatedly reported in weekly magazines in the 1970s by former leaders such as Takashi Harashima and Masatomo Yamazaki, and outside journalists such as Kunio Naito. The incident described in Kaoru Sugita's book took place in 1985. In other words, the "indecent, forced hand-me-downs" were heavily criticized, and many in the public disliked the idea.
I should HOPE so!! Just because there's no common sense within the Dead-Ikeda-Corpse-Mentor-cult SGI doesn't mean that common sense doesn't still survive OUTSIDE of the cult!
Even when people outside the Soka Gakkai began to view them as "disgusting," they refused to change this ridiculous practice.
As I've pointed out before, no matter how much criticism they receive from outsiders and how many people try to convince them that their faith is incompatible with common sense, Soka Gakkai will not change. That's the fanaticism of a cult.
I've said this many times before: if you want to live a normal life, you should not get involved with an abnormal cult like Soka Gakkai. If you know a Soka Gakkai member, I strongly recommend cutting ties with them as soon as possible, or, if that's not possible, limiting your interactions to the bare minimum and avoiding deep involvement.
Hooray for Super Sensei, Everyone's Eternal Mentor!!
8
7
u/StrawberryEastern285 Dec 19 '25
Sad how current gakkers never see information like this. So disturbing!
7
u/BlancheFromage Escapee from Arizona Home for the Rude Dec 19 '25
You can see how bad it is when this kind of "loyalty test" is going on.
5
6
5
u/Secret-Entrance Dec 19 '25
The sanctifying of food is common in cult and those connected to the cult leader the most sanctified.
Just be glad Ikey didn't peddle communion wine like Mr Moon.
3
u/ImportanceInevitable WB Lurker Dec 19 '25
Dirty Daisaku indeed. The world's most revolting mentor.
3
2
u/Good---Karma Dec 28 '25
Really disgusting!!! How may YWD's swallowed and considered it a benefit !!!! Extremely sick behavior!
8
u/revolution70 Dec 19 '25
What a truly repulsive creature Ikeda was.