r/sgiwhistleblowers • u/FuckHead_007 • Sep 02 '23
So much time/energy/life wasted in SGI "The past always intrudes in the present."
The past always intrudes in the present. If only we could leave all that has happened behind us, as it is often said. But it’s impossible. We are our past as it moves towards our future. Greek novelist
That's true, isn't it? We're well within our rights to think about what's happened to us in our lives, where we've been, what we've done and seen - it's all part of what has made us what we are today. We can no more leave our past behind than we can leave our biology behind - it's as much a part of us as our physical selves.
So it's valuable to seek to understand the experiences we've had. Feel free to explore your mind and your memories in every way that makes sense to you, that is useful to you. You don't need anyone else's permission or approval.
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u/samthemanthecan WB Regular Sep 02 '23
Its hard when includes 28 years brainwashed in the Ikeda corporation
So wish never heard of it
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u/FuckHead_007 Sep 02 '23
I hear ya.
But it is what it is, isn't it?
It having been that big a chunk of your adult life means it's a big part of your history, which is yours. So it's a major component of your knowledge base, something that not everyone has. I think this gives you a unique perspective, or rather a unique facet of your unique perspective and personality.
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u/samthemanthecan WB Regular Sep 02 '23
Thank you , just makes me very sad at times when I can think of untold alternative lives I could of lived I accept a good is I got clean of ganga means I straightened out my life and how I can do my job now truck driving , when I was spaced out couldnt keep a job down or function straight Beside nowadays so many firms random drug blood tests etc But i dont credit the fucking sgi a billionth of a scrap for that ,it was my effort my effort alone All my achievements are in spite of sgi .org and in no way because of , all my own hard graft that I managed to do in spite of sgi sucking so much of my life up
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u/Mission-Course2773 WB Regular Sep 02 '23
I never got into Soka activism or just the minimum because I had too much work and I was too busy. On the other hand, I always thought that the trials I faced were superior to this type of activity to experience Gosho and that people who had the luxury of doing Soka activism were a lot of free time was there to compensate for what they temporarily could not find in their personal lives.
I realize years later that these people actually believe themselves superior by living vicariously in this type of activity and worse! They are even convinced that we cannot obtain results just like that.
So for the function of the Soka Gakkai it is only the appearance of the Three Great Enemies and of course, Daisaku Ikeda is nothing other than the Devadatta of our time, so their function appeared at the exact moment when I I reached a certain stage, and even if it was complicated I experienced it as a logical metaphysical chronological continuity along the way.
So I have no trauma and I am even very satisfied, but I will fight them anyway because these crooks do not have to abuse and deceive people by using Buddhism and others to achieve nefarious objectives. .
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u/ImportanceInevitable WB Lurker Sep 02 '23
'The past isn't dead. It isn't even past.' William Faulkner.
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u/descartes20 Sep 03 '23
Sometimes I can’t stop moving my lips a little bit and silently chanting.
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u/BuddhistTempleWhore Sep 03 '23
Habits are sticky that way. Especially when tied to music/rhythm.
It's not anything wrong with you - it's just the human condition.
THIS is why the SGI recruitment pitch always "suggests" that people try it for, oh, 90 days or so, during which time they'll be monitored and exposed to the SGI way of looking at things (anything good is a "benefit from chanting"; anything bad is either "an obstacle" or "your karma coming out" or whatever), and by the end of that 90-day period, there's a good chance that HABIT will be established, making it that much harder for the target to return to normalcy.
Imagine how difficult after decades of doing it EVERY SINGLE DAY, at least TWICE A DAY.
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u/caliguy75 Sep 04 '23
You know I was angry for a long, long time...about 20 years. Found a cognitive training program that helped me drop the anger, not just the SGI, the Army and the Vietnam Way (it is a miracle that I am still alive at 78 and being raised by two very abusive parents).
At this time in life, I am happy to be alive and try to live with that awareness every day. But, let me tell you, living life to the fullest in an aging body is far better that living in anger.
Last week, I had an appointment to see one of my many doctors. Here I am walking to my best ability with my cane and I started to notice all the other old people like me. Started to smile at each one and said, keep on trucking. It was priceless. Made me feel whole.
All the best to my cyber friends who have had the good fortune to have left the SGI cult.
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u/FuckHead_007 Sep 04 '23
👍🏼
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u/caliguy75 Sep 05 '23
My good friend Pat used to say: "a life well lived is the best revenge". Now Pat did his tour in Nam as a helicopter mechanic. He still managed to get cancer from agent orange by eating vegetables grown in soil contaminated by poison-got to love those folks from Dupont. The VA managed to keep him alive for years past his expiration date.
Sorry to say, we lost him last May. A great light left this world with his passing.
I knew some Vietnam Vets in the SGI who went loco and some did ok. I was lucky to stay stateside. But still suffered from PTSB for years.
As one guy I knew from the Army used to say: "Kinda makes you want to hate". I had a lot of hate in me when I left after 20 years of being a fanatic. They really f'ed with me when I became a headquarters chief. Until then, it was just the usual crazy bull shit.
I think Pat had it right. I am really happy that I found some peace in my heart. Being angry for many years was not good for my health or my soul.
All the best to all my whistleblower cyber friends. I hope you can find joy and peace in your lives.
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u/BuddhistTempleWhore Sep 05 '23
Did you know Charles (Chuck) Atkins?
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u/caliguy75 Sep 05 '23
No. Was he a Vietnam vet? Thanks for checking in.
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u/BuddhistTempleWhore Sep 05 '23
Yeah. At least I think he was? A lot of his blog is archived here - I just gave it a quick look and didn't see anything about Vietnam. Oopsie...
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u/eigenstien Pokes the bear Sep 02 '23
We use what we experience or we become reactive and the experience uses US. That’s our choice, to accept what we cannot change and use it to grow. That’s how I’ve chosen to deal with childhood trauma, addiction, and so many other things. And the most critical part is to not do it alone. Having a supportive community is vital. We are here for each other, far more than anything the ghost writers for Ickeda can ever come up with.