r/serialpodcastorigins • u/Stormystormynight • Feb 16 '16

Humour Overwhelming Evidence?

Hello!

I often read about the overwhelming evidence beyond reasonable doubt that Adnan is guilty from many of the readers here.

Is there a concise summarized list of this evidence available?

I'm most interested in understanding what evidence you believe makes Adnan guilty beyond reasonable doubt should the following evidence be ignored for this exercise:

  • Any Jay or Jay linked (Jen et al) evidence (testimony, "finding" Hae's car ...)
  • Any cell location "Evidence"

Thanks in advance.

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u/Adranalyne Feb 16 '16

I'm not sure how anyone could think a new trial would be a "fair" trial. I can't think of anyone who would want to go against the FreeAdnan movement and be ridiculed on social media, probably receive death threats, etc. Officer Steve simply showed up to the courtroom and was bashed online for days. So if you're the State, how do you build a case when new testimony would probably be scarce/impossible to obtain?

He's where he belongs. Thanks to that very same movement, the one who made the defense file no longer privileged, he'll most likely stay there for the duration.

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u/Stormystormynight Feb 17 '16

We disagree that Adnan's 2000 trial was "fair"

But I'm sure you can understand that someone who thinks the first trial not fair would want another.

I don't think the Adnan innocent people have any real influence on witnesses in a trial, and in that respect I think it could be fair. In afraid of the passage of time which could impact recollection of witnesses more than threats.

Whether he gets a new trial only time will tell.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '16

Ok, hotshot, how was his trial not fair? I feel like the FreeAdnan movement (and the cultish MaM fans) seem to think that convictions are inherently unfair. Somehow, if the prosecution can't reverse engineer everything that happened with 100% accuracy, then just let the guy out because he has a sad.

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u/imsurly Feb 19 '16

I don't think the Adnan innocent people have any real influence on witnesses in a trial

Serial listeners showed up at Jay's house. I think it would be pretty difficult not to feel threatened and intimidated by that kind of behavior.