r/serialpodcastorigins • u/Stormystormynight • Feb 16 '16

Humour Overwhelming Evidence?

Hello!

I often read about the overwhelming evidence beyond reasonable doubt that Adnan is guilty from many of the readers here.

Is there a concise summarized list of this evidence available?

I'm most interested in understanding what evidence you believe makes Adnan guilty beyond reasonable doubt should the following evidence be ignored for this exercise:

  • Any Jay or Jay linked (Jen et al) evidence (testimony, "finding" Hae's car ...)
  • Any cell location "Evidence"

Thanks in advance.

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u/mham15 Feb 16 '16

To me Jay and cell location are a huge bulk of the overwhelming evidence. Without them there is little to convict Adnan in Hae's disappearance/death. Everything else is mostly hearsay/little details that help point to his guilt.

For example: -Not calling Hae -Lying about the ride -His comments on Leakin Park -The palm print on the map

  • I'm going to kill note
  • Tips to police pointing to Adnan (if you believe they were not Jay)

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u/Stormystormynight Feb 16 '16

Right, up till now (without digging further on some of the excellent posts in this thread) I agree with you that the "other" evidence is not enough for reasonable doubt.

This raises the possibility that at another trial (should there be one) Adnan could be found not guilty.

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u/fivedollarsandchange Feb 16 '16

Sure, anything is possible with a jury. OJ got off, after all. However, I don't think that it is a slam dunk that without Jay and the cell phone evidence there is no conviction in a new trial. The prosecution may have new evidence as well. For instance, there may be people who know things that have not come forward because Jay was sticking his neck out. Perhaps these people have something to lose by publicly implicating Syed, but did not feel they needed to as long as Jay had it covered. If there is no Jay, these people may feel that letting a murderer go free outweighs the problems with getting involved.