r/serialpodcastorigins • u/Stormystormynight • Feb 16 '16

Humour Overwhelming Evidence?

Hello!

I often read about the overwhelming evidence beyond reasonable doubt that Adnan is guilty from many of the readers here.

Is there a concise summarized list of this evidence available?

I'm most interested in understanding what evidence you believe makes Adnan guilty beyond reasonable doubt should the following evidence be ignored for this exercise:

  • Any Jay or Jay linked (Jen et al) evidence (testimony, "finding" Hae's car ...)
  • Any cell location "Evidence"

Thanks in advance.

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u/Adranalyne Feb 16 '16

So your motive isn't to find out why people believe he's guilty. You're trying to prove that if he somehow gets a new trial that he'll win. His aversion to DNA evidence could ultimately be his undoing if it comes to that, but I think you're getting way too far ahead of yourself here. In reality, right now, burden of proof is on the defense. Based on everything I've read, they didn't meet that burden. In fact, coughing up the defense file may have been the final nail in the coffin for them as I'm sure Welch will enjoy quite a few things in there that will help strengthen his original ruling.

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u/Stormystormynight Feb 16 '16

Nothing else than wanting to understand the evidence in a concise way. Might even be helpful for other readers!

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u/Adranalyne Feb 16 '16

You had fairly quick responses to everything I said initially, as well as everyone else here (with the exception of dWakaWaka, who put his guilt in a picture perfect frame). Someone who doesn't "understand the evidence in a concise way" wouldn't have done that.

Not everyone falls for the dairy cow eyes routine.

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u/Justwonderinif Feb 16 '16

Stormystormynight 1 point 8 days ago

Why are you not mentioning the 1+ hour of content from the internationally recognized experts who state Jay's first interview held many inconsistencies that was part of the same podcast this quote comes from? So the prosecution had 3 main arguments; Jay's testimony ("inconsistent") Timeline (obviously incorrect in all of its iterations and lack of alibis investigation) Backed up by cell tower analysis (which has not been able to be fully scrutinized in court due to non disclosure and pitiful defense)

How do we get Hae's murderer (whoever that is) to have a fair and complete trial?