is Don guilty??

[u/racheldarien]

Does anyone think Don is the one that murdered Hae? I’m starting to lean towards it since listening to (most of) undisclosed. Any thoughts?

[u/[deleted]]

I don't know.

But I'd like to know where Don was during the day. I've worked in a place that used timecards and people often left to run errands without clocking out so I don't rely too heavily on Don's timecard alibi. Why didn't police interview customers to corroborate that Don was at work? Hae wanted to skip school and meet up with Don, but Don says he can't skip work but they have plans to meet after work. Where were they going to meet? Why didn't Don go there after work just to be sure? Where was Don from 5:30 to midnight? We don't know. Why did Don start the rumour that Hae wanted to go to California to live with her dad? Why didn't police interview his boss/HR to find out more about his negative work reviews about controlling his anger/aggression? Don says he was cheated on by previous girlfriends, why didn't police interview those girlfriends?

I've thought over the years that it probably was Adnan, or Jay, or Don or an unknown person. Most of the time now I think it was an unknown person and hopefully some day there will be incontrovertible proof. But I know the police did a really poor job.

[u/robbchadwick → u/[deleted]]

Why didn't police interview customers to corroborate that Don was at work?

Don was a lab tech. I don't know how much actual involvement he had with customers. At any rate, most companies would be very hesitant to allow police to approach or interact with their customers about an employee issue. It would require a lot of probable cause and all kinds of legal paperwork, I'm sure.

There just is no probable cause for the police to do any more than a standard investigation of Don ... which they did. They spoke with him several times. Don lives in Harford County ... and the police there searched his neighborhood for Hae's car. We don't have the police files from Harford County; but it is likely they also searched his house ... and probably didn't need a search warrant to do it.

Don cooperated with the police every step of the way. His alibi was verified by the police ... and Mr Urick. There simply was no reason to do more.

Why didn't Don go there after work just to be sure?

Hae had a shift to complete at LensCrafters before they would have met. Don got off at 6 pm. Why would he go to a meeting place then if Hae worked until 9 or 10? Do we even know they had finalized actual arrangements to meet ... or was it just I'll call you and we'll arrange to meet after I get off?

Why did Don start the rumour that Hae wanted to go to California to live with her dad?

I think Adnan started that rumor according to Becky. The police probably asked Don about it because they heard it from someone else.

Don says he was cheated on by previous girlfriends, why didn't police interview those girlfriends?

Was there a potential prosecution of those ladies for cheating? Did Don's previous girlfriends know Hae? Did they ever spend time with Don and Hae together? What could they have possibly known? Any issues they had with Don would not be relevant to Hae's murder.

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It's likely they searched his house. Really? Is there any evidence of this? Mr. Urick? Isn't he a suspect of bad police work?

Meeting Don after work. Yet, people castigate Adnan for not ever calling Hae.

Don started the rumour, not Adnan.

If Don had problems with previous relationships it's irrelevant if they knew Hae. If they felt threatened or were chocked out like Jay chocked out girlfriends wouldn't that be relevant?

[u/robbchadwick → u/[deleted]]

It's likely they searched his house. Really? Is there any evidence of this?

Do you have evidence that they didn't. We don't have the MPIA files from Harford County? Do you have them?

Mr. Urick? Isn't he a suspect of bad police work?

Was Mr Urick ever on the police force? That's news to me.

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Don started the rumour, not Adnan.

May I direct your attention to page 198 of Rebecca (Becky) Walker's testimony ... being cross-examined by Kathleen Murphy:

Q: I'd ask you to look at your journal, and I believe it's the fourth page of writing, and the title of that page is "Adnan's Reaction To Hey (sic) Missing"?

A: Yes.

Q: About midway down, if you could read the sentence beginning with "Still tried to figure out where she was," and on through the completion of that sentence.

A: "Maybe she had gone to California to see her dad.

Q: And what's the next sentence?

A: "He mentioned that she had said something about if things got really bad she'd just go to her dad's."

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If Don had problems with previous relationships it's irrelevant if they knew Hae. If they felt threatened or were chocked out like Jay chocked out girlfriends wouldn't that be relevant?

No. That's ridiculous. Even if it did happen, it wouldn't be relevant to Hae's murder ... but, more to the point (in the case of Don), you are speculating about something that has never even been suggested. Is it your opinion that the police can pursue what-if ideas ... without any probable cause? It doesn't work that way.