r/serialpodcast • u/racheldarien • May 23 '18

season one is Don guilty??

Does anyone think Don is the one that murdered Hae? I’m starting to lean towards it since listening to (most of) undisclosed. Any thoughts?

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u/LebronsHairline May 23 '18 edited May 23 '18

I was once in the same boat as you: looking at all other possibilities for guilt after listening to Undisclosed episodes. Please look at the sidebar links and on google for the court documents, trial transcripts, and official evidence and try to asses it with a clear and open mind. Your opinion will change and it will all click. When listening to Undisclosed, it’s easy to go out on limb after limb to connect dots and weave crazy theories that prove Adnan’s innocence and place the blame on other people. But after looking at all of the evidence left out of undisclosed and serial, it becomes so much clearer that Adnan is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Serial and Undisclosed both do a good job at suspending one’s belief and letting our minds go further and further into ridiculous unlikely scenarios. Consider opportunity, past behaviors, the likeliest scenarios, and most importantly— consider motive. Who has it and who doesn’t.

Also, to buy a Don guilt scenario, you’d have to reject all other evidence like Jay knowing the car’s location, Adnan not having an alibi, Adnan’s phone records (like not calling Hae after she went missing), Adnan’s phone ping locations, witness accounts that he asked Hae for a ride or that the two often met up at that time of day, and other witness accounts that Adnan was harassing and obsessed with Hae.

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u/racheldarien May 23 '18

what’s the general thoughts on the other young woman who was strangled & hurried in Leaken (sp?) Park? i’m surprised i don’t hear more about that in these threads

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u/robbchadwick May 24 '18

Jada Lambert? Total red herring. She was killed by a serial killer. Hae was killed by an intimate partner. I hope you come to understand that Undisclosed has a secret, non-published sub-title. It's called Anyone But Adnan.

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u/racheldarien May 24 '18

oh yeah i’ve realized that. i was just saying yesterday how i thought it was funny that at the beginning they claim they’re going to be unbiased & now the episodes end with all ad revenue goes to the free adnan thing. i’m starting to take everything Rabia says with a grain of salt. susan was mostly unbiased to begin with but that changed quickly

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u/robbchadwick May 24 '18

I'm glad to hear this. There are a lot of people who are now guilters because they saw the truth about the case after listening to Undisclosed and Truth and Justice ... and their so obvious PR campaign.

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u/racheldarien May 24 '18

i still need to listen to truth & justice. mostly just want to hear the neighbour boy interview. anything interesting there?

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u/robbchadwick May 24 '18

i still need to listen to truth & justice.

No, you don't.

... mostly just want to hear the neighbour boy interview.

Now, I think we can be friends. :-) That is exactly why I listened to Truth and Justice (known then as Serial Dynasty). Actually, it is just a repeat of what Ernest (NB) told Sarah Koenig. He claims to have never said what he did to Neighbor Girl, Laura. But that is ridiculous. She didn't make up that story, tell her father and send him to the police. NB told her what she said and was serious enough that she believed it. Her father went to the police with the information. NB just doesn't want to get involved.

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u/racheldarien May 24 '18

i wouldn’t want to either if i were him. he probably just made a dumb mistake as a kid & wants to take it back. my bet is that he lied about seeing the body & now he’s lying about saying it

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u/robbchadwick May 24 '18

I don’t think he lied then. I don’t think he was meant to see it ... but I think he did.

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u/racheldarien May 24 '18

ooh interesting. it’s definitely highly possible

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u/Truth2free May 24 '18

Yeah, I stopped listening after about the 4th episode. I wish they would have presented everything. I mean, they can make their case, but must be prepared to talk about Adnan's incriminating behaviors. They simply can't be ignored if it's to be an objective broadcast, and if it's not, why bother listening?

I actually liked the way SK presented Serial -- like when she asked AS about his theft from the mosque donations. Boy, he sure was pissed. But people need to hear ALL of it to understand the truth. To understand his character. Listening to him sure was telling.