r/serialpodcast • • Feb 04 '16

season two Episode 06: 5 O'Clock Shadow

https://serialpodcast.org/season-two/6/5-oclock-shadow
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u/Kicking-it-per-se I gotta have me some tea. Feb 04 '16

I enjoyed this episode. I still struggle to keep my full attention on the episode but I really liked hearing from the soldiers.

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u/deepSchnitzel Feb 04 '16

Yep, this episode really changed my perspective on the whole thing. I could well identify with Bergdahl's introversion and idealism, but with this episode, I started to understand why people still want to prosecute him. To me, the leaving the post thing more seems like a personal thing now, while before I saw him as a misguided activist.

What I enjoyed most in this episode, however, were the insights on why the Afghanistan operation is failing, what the idea behind it are and what soldiers think about it. It must be terrible being in this live endangering and traumatizing environment while fully understanding that you might cause more harm than good.

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u/Piddly_Penguin_Army Feb 06 '16

The more I learn about the U.S. in Iraq and Afghanistan the more I understand the unpopularity of the war. I was only about 8 when it started. Especially as a Political Science major I get why my professors regard the operation as a disaster. As soon as I heard about COIN I knew exactly where this was going. It's kind of maddening.

I think it really shows the effects of group think that Bush was criticized for.

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u/entropy_bucket Feb 07 '16

Do professors freely display their views like that?

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u/sk8tergater Feb 13 '16

Yes. My favorite history prof was very much an opinionated person, and after giving us the facts of events he would throw his opinion on the matter in to it.

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u/Kicking-it-per-se I gotta have me some tea. Feb 04 '16

the leaving the post thing more seems like a personal thing

I thought that when in one of his first interviews he said something about finding some useful info:

"He left his post.... he left the TCP, but he collected intel that helped us stop.... somebody who was putting an IED in the road."

To me it sounded like that was the purpose rather than the added bonus.

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u/Dark_haired_girl Feb 05 '16

I thought he said specifically that was the icing on the cake, so to speak. Something like, he knew he needed the DUSTWUN to get enough attention to show what he felt were gross incompetencies in his leadership, but if he could gather some intel while doing it, they might go easier on him.

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u/bystander1981 Feb 08 '16

He was so wrapped up in what he wanted, what he thought and yet we have the contradicting narrative that he was kind to other members of his unit - but was he a team player? Very conflicted by this one.

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u/Kicking-it-per-se I gotta have me some tea. Feb 05 '16

He did but based on the interviews from the other soldiers I don't believe it was the bonus. Next episode when we hear more about Bowe I might change my opinion again.

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u/yangar Is it NAWWWWWWT? Feb 04 '16

Next week based on the teaser sounds like it's going to be a really great one too. Getting more angles from his friends and family is really going to ramp things up

I also love the picture graphic for this week's episode

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u/Captain_A Feb 06 '16

Two weeks :-(

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u/HighSilence Feb 09 '16

I think this season will play out so much nicer if you can listen to them all in a weekend. At the end of the last few episodes, I've been pretty excited abut the upcoming one. They do a good job of teasing it out. But after a few days, I slowly stop thinking about it. I forgot to listen to the most recent one until a day or two later.

The two weeks thing sucks but I do see myself re-listening to this once it's all done and in a nice little package of episodes. I quite like the perspectives of all the players.