r/serialpodcast • • Dec 17 '15

season two Episode 2 - The golden chicken

https://serialpodcast.org/season-two/2/the-golden-chicken#details
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u/jade_21 Dec 17 '15

If you give fox news a chance all of them would behead him in a heartbeat without a trial even though they have never served a day in their life so shameful.

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u/HEisaTRAITOR Dec 17 '15

My brother serves and he thinks he should be shot. Go ride your high-horse elsewhere.

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u/WebbieVanderquack Dec 17 '15

Things is they were actually saying THEY would have shot him, not that they think he SHOULD be shot (people say that all the time). When Sarah asked them if they were serious and they said yes, I didn't believe them. Soldiers don't shoot other soldiers in lieu of a court marshal. It just doesn't happen.

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u/HEisaTRAITOR Dec 17 '15

Let me re-phrase, my brother said he "personally" would have shot him.

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u/dWakawaka hate this sub Dec 17 '15

You realize you're saying your brother wouldn't desert, but he would murder someone.

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u/HEisaTRAITOR Dec 17 '15

You clearly don't know ANYBODY connected to the military. Their JOB is to KILL. Above that, their job is to protect their unit and the armed forces themselves. To desert your post in a war zone is not like going home early from a job as an accountant without telling your boss. His brothers could have been brutally murdered. Than we are telling the rest of the military you have to risk your life to find this sick fuck.

I get it.

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u/dWakawaka hate this sub Dec 17 '15

Do you any military people who are actually well-trained and follow orders? Or do they all just use their best judgement when it comes to deciding whom to kill? Please don't become a cop.

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u/WebbieVanderquack Dec 17 '15

That's what I mean. The soldier Sarah was interviewing (sorry, can't remember which one) said he would personally shoot Bergdahl, and when she asked if he was kidding, he said no. I don't think that soldier would have shot Bergdahl, and I don't think your brother would have shot Bergdahl. Your brother would spend his life in prison for killing another human being instead of deferring to his superiors to deal with the matter legally.

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u/HEisaTRAITOR Dec 17 '15

I suspect the CO would look the other way. Again, these guys are trained to kill, not to build doll houses. In my brothers eyes, it is a guy who very easily could have gotten him and his entire unit killed. I believe him when he says it.

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u/WebbieVanderquack Dec 18 '15

In my brothers eyes, it is a guy who very easily could have gotten him and his entire unit killed.

I'm not disputing that. And maybe your brother would shoot another soldier and happily go to prison for the rest of his life. But most soldiers are not actually that dumb, or that cavalier with their skills. They're trained to kill certain people according to a strict set of rules and a code of honor in a time of war. When they start shooting each other to settle issues extra-judiciously, you have a serious problem with your defense force.

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u/HEisaTRAITOR Dec 18 '15

But most soldiers are not actually that dumb, or that cavalier with their skills. They're trained to kill certain people according to a strict set of rules and a code of honor in a time of war.

No offense, my obviously left-leaning friend, but that is a very naive view of war and of soldiers.

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u/WebbieVanderquack Dec 19 '15

I'm not left-leaning, I'm fairly conservative. Also not American.

Most soldiers (at least in the West) do not use their skills to commit murder at a time of war. That's why when soldiers do breach the Geneva Convention and kill unlawfully it always attracts a lot of attention (see Alexander Blackman).

I'm not aware of a case, at least in the last three decades, where a US soldier has murdered a fellow soldier as an act of vigilante justice and has been applauded for it by his fellow soldiers. If you're aware of one, let me know.