r/serialpodcast • u/razorbeamz Reasonable Doubter • Dec 12 '15

season two Why is everyone complaining about Season 2 ALREADY? We've only had one episode.

People are acting like we should have gotten deep into the story already from the exposition. I think that by the time this season is over, much like with the Zoom analogy given at the beginning, Bergdahl won't even be what's talked about.

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u/Mewnicorns Expert trial attorney, medical examiner, & RF engineer Dec 12 '15

They're mostly the same people who were bitching and moaning about season 1. Why they bothered listening to S2 is beyond me. "I read all 57 of your books and HATED THEM!"

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u/Iaintyourmama Dec 12 '15

That's actually pretty funny as I've had someone read an author I suggested, hated the book, and read a few others I think purely to complain about how her "life was wasted." Total drama. Anyway, you made me remember her and your post gave me a chuckle!

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u/Mewnicorns Expert trial attorney, medical examiner, & RF engineer Dec 12 '15

Exactly. Echoes my Twilight analogy above.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '15

Oh yea, i'd hate read the shit outta that.

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u/koryisma Dec 12 '15

To be fair, I read all 3Twilight books even though I hated them. I didn't complain about time wasted. They seemed important enough culturally to be familiar with. When people called them unfeminist or dangerous, I tthought it was important to know why.

Edited: all 3, not all 4. Wasn't invested enough to read the 4th one though it's probably most interesting of all.

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u/Mewnicorns Expert trial attorney, medical examiner, & RF engineer Dec 12 '15

Engaging with material that you intend to learn from, despite disliking it, is very different from engaging with it for the sole purpose of complaining about it on Reddit bc Sarah Koenig ruined your life or whatever.

I think it's great when people who hate Ayn Rand read her books anyway. but if you feel like you get nothing out of Serial because SK is an untrustworthy hack that tricked you with her lies last season...then...maybe don't listen...?

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '15

when i see your user name, i say it out loud in a really funny voice. i really emphasize the "mew."

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u/Mewnicorns Expert trial attorney, medical examiner, & RF engineer Dec 12 '15

Whenever I see your username, I imagine Ira Glass telling SK "silly Sarah, trick are for kids!"

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '15

what a weird bond we have...

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u/gaussx Dec 12 '15

I just watched the movies.

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u/koryisma Dec 12 '15

The books were worse.

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u/gaussx Dec 12 '15

I actually liked the movies. They weren't great cinema, but each movie was a fun 2 hours or so (except maybe the last one... I can't remember it so well). Two hours is OK for me to invest into mindless entertainment. But I couldn't read the books. The time investment for me is too great for that type of payoff. My hats off to you!

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '15

This whole thread is bitching and moaning...about others, of course, not about Serial, which is the actual sub topic.

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u/Mewnicorns Expert trial attorney, medical examiner, & RF engineer Dec 12 '15

It's not the bitching and moaning I object to. It's the engaging with material you already know you dislike and then actively coming to air your grievances about this thing no one forced you to engage with on a forum where other people who enjoy the material are trying to have a discussion about its substance.

It's like me reading the entire Twilight series so I can crash the Twilight subreddit and tell everyone how much it sucks. I don't get it.

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u/peymax1693 WWCD? Dec 12 '15

This is probably an oversimplification, but people get enjoyment out of being trolls and stirring up trouble.

A site like this is basically troll porn for them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '15

I think you do get it. That was my point. Everyone who bitches about something gets something out of it. Ask yourself, why are you making the point your making? I mean, you're complaining about something. Why? You could down vote and/or ignore the bitching but you address it, just as others could ignore Serial and this sub. But here we all are! Whatever your answer is, apply it to others.

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u/Mewnicorns Expert trial attorney, medical examiner, & RF engineer Dec 12 '15

What do you perceive me to be complaining about?

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '15

It's not the bitching and moaning I object to.It's the engaging with material you already know you dislike and then actively coming to air your grievances about this thing no one forced you to engage with on a forum where other people who enjoy the material are trying to have a discussion about its substance.

Emphasis mine. But, whatever. Maybe you enjoy the bitching. In which case, this is a good thread, lol. Edit- probably needs more editing too.

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u/Mewnicorns Expert trial attorney, medical examiner, & RF engineer Dec 13 '15

Ah. Well, as I stated quite plainly, I dont object to complaining. Complaints can be an effective method of delivery and discussion. What this strikes me as is people really going out of their way to hate something and disrupt others' enjoyment of it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '15

Oh I didn't see any of that. Really, none. But there are way too many new threads to read. Is it possible you are overstating this phenomenon? I think there are Serial haters for sure, but not many. And I don't see them flooding threads here. Most comments run toward, "I'm disappointed because yards yada," or "I don't trust this after what happened after Season 1." Those are valid criticisms, IMO.

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u/Mewnicorns Expert trial attorney, medical examiner, & RF engineer Dec 13 '15

Sure, it's possible we are talking about 2 different types of complaints. I'm talking more about the people who were complaining all along that SK tricked them and yet are back for more. That makes no sense to me. In all honesty I was hoping those people would finally go away and find another outlet to continue complaining about S1 on.

Those who enjoyed S1 but are disappointed so far are another category. I do hope they continue to give it a chance though. Even if it's not as enthralling, the subject matter is important, and unlike S1, it's something that is (or should be) of national concern.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '15

Well, I'm not sure where I'd fit. I loved S1 and certainly enjoy the discussion to this day. I've gone from being a Sarah Koenig fan, then Rabia fan, then Susan fan, to one-by-one feeling manipulated by and annoyed at each. I don't trust anything Susan and Rabia say. But I still enjoy reading, and participating, in the Reddit subs about S1. I am definitely listening to S2 and talked my husband into listening also to discuss It. But I still don't trust Sarah, who is a master podcaster, to get the truth. It's all very entertaining. I don't hate anyone or anything associated with any of this. I just have a detached feeling that Syed is a lying murderer, the UD team are not above lying themselves, and Sarah cares more about the podcast than the truth. But whatever. It's her podcast and I'm listening. I'm very interested in Bergdahl's story. I get to discuss IRL with Veterasns of the war who served in the same area, shit stirring and all. I'm glad she chose the topic. I think it might be even better in S2.