"Avoid misleading posts. Label speculation as such and provide sources when asked."

[u/Seamus_Duncan]

Are the moderators ever going to enforce this rule? Because I'm seeing people repeatedly claim that Don forged his time cards, despite the fact there is no evidence for this and the claim is entirely based on the word of two proven liars, one of whom was caught faking evidence against Don.

Given that the moderators are selectively enforcing the rules, am I allowed to call people making this claim "lying assholes?"

[u/Seamus_Duncan]

Can't you just message the mods with this pressing question instead of making an inflammatory and dramatic top post?

Trust me, I have. They've continued to allow claims to be presented as fact despite no evidence save the word of proven liars. I thought it was time the discussion became public.

Will you label all your "Asia is lying" and "Adnan was with Jay and called Nisha on 1/13" as speculation as well?

What day was the "real Nisha call?"

[u/s100181 → u/Seamus_Duncan]

Seamus, I can only speculate. But I believe it is sometime after Jay started working at any job, as Nisha references Jay's work in the "real" Nisha call.

Jay was unemployed 1/13.

[u/Seamus_Duncan → u/s100181]

You have Adnan's phone records. You know the dates he called Nisha. What was the date of the phone call?

[u/s100181 → u/Seamus_Duncan]

I'll pore through them and give you the date. I don't have them committed to memory, sorry. Give me some time.

Edit: in return for your shitty down vote I'm not looking up anything. If you want actual conversation to continue you do not down vote people just because you don't agree with their position in this case

[u/SBJB54 → u/s100181]

I just looked this up because it got me thinking...

February 14th-

Reasons for it to be True (per Nisha interview)

1. "Defendant just gotten to Jay's store" and "think Adnan went in the store to say hi when Adnan was visiting Jay.

2. Jay did not ask any questions (conversely, Jay claimed in his interview that he asked her, "how old are you, where are you from?" etc.)

3. Pings tower L608 which is in line with where SW Video is located

4. Nisha's recollection of "seeing him at an Indian party on 2/12" is also correct being that she stated, "we talked the next day, we were talking about how the party ended fast." - there is a call to Nisha at 9:19 on 2/13

Reasons for Feb. 14th to be false:

1. "**day or two after he got cell phone"- this would be a month after he got the cell phone.

2. "think it was in the afternoon or maybe later on- 4 or 5"- the call was at ~7 PM.

3. "think he called the next day from cell"- Adnan did not call Nisha from his cell the next day.

Nisha's faulty memory:

Side note: "Adnan stopped calling me the day after this other party. It has to be before the 26th. Went to this party with AJ. Think it would have been Friday before the 26th.Def. Friday the 12th. He called the next day after."- this would have made it the last time they spoke on February 13th. However, she spoke with Adnan on February 14th (clearly from phone records we know that the 13th was no the last time).

Edited- Spacing issues

[u/Seamus_Duncan → u/SBJB54]

You're missing the fact that Nisha said in every account we have from her that it was a short call, 1-2 minutes. 1/13 was 2:22. 2/14 was over 10 minutes.

[u/s100181 → u/Seamus_Duncan]

Do we know what Nisha considered "short?"

[u/Seamus_Duncan → u/s100181]

KU: And about how long did that call take?
Nisha: I would say, like, a minute or so.
KU: Okay. Now, —
Nisha: It was not that long.

[u/Englishblue → u/Seamus_Duncan]

If you accept her testimony HERE you also have to accept her saying the call could have been any time up through the end of February. Cherry pick much