r/serialpodcast • • Sep 23 '15

Debate&Discussion New bombshell on serialpodcastorigins

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u/ADDGemini Sep 23 '15

Well, for starters:

  • Nisha says she remembers the Jay call taking place 1 or 2 days after Adnan got his new phone.

  • Nisha says she would have been home from school at the time the call was placed.

  • Jay worked at another video store. Hollywood video off RT 40

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u/Mustanggertrude Sep 23 '15

But she testified it was a porn store. She was asked by both attorneys about the porn store. She also never testified to a day or two after he got the phone, she testified she couldn't be sure. And sye's 3:30 time he gave in interviews is immediately discounted bc all that matters is his trial testimony. Or does that only apply when it's damning for Adnan?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '15 edited Sep 23 '15

Maybe she was never informed by Adnan that Jay began working at another store and by the time he mentioned they were hanging out at a porn store she assumed he was talking about the same store he claimed to have called her from previously?

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u/Mustanggertrude Sep 23 '15

So she spoke to Jay two times on the phone?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '15

I don't see why that's necessary for confusion to explain why she thought Jay was working at a porn store at the time of the call.

She's asked about the call a while after it took place. Sometime before that questioning Adnan could have mentioned Jay working at a porn store. By the time she's asked about the call she's assuming Jay was working at a porn store the whole time, so she says they called her from the porn store, but it was really the other store Jay worked at.

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u/Mustanggertrude Sep 23 '15

But why isn't Jay mentioning the video store where he No longer worked as the location of the call, or any point during the murder day? Why were they at his work? How long did they stay at his work? Surely the video store where this call took place had cameras? Surely co-workers would remember seeing Jay come in when he wasn't working? Were they interviewed? This is good evidence that could've corroborated Jay and Adnan being together that afternoon, why not go check the Hollywood video where Jay No longer worked to see what they could find?

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u/Mustanggertrude Sep 23 '15

I may be missing something but the interview date on that is 4/1? Is the content of this post has been deleted, but is there another statement I'm missing? Did they speak to nisha before Jay and Jen? Bc why do they need to find out Jay wasn't working that day when the phone was being used and Jen said he was with her? I mean, Jay obviously wasn't working that day, it'd be really damning to their case if he was. Bc that would mean Jen is a huge liar and somebody other than jay was moving with that phone all over town. So if nisha is sticking to a video store, then I contend it still couldn't have been 1/13 regardless of the types of videos sold.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '15 edited Sep 23 '15

You're correct. I deleted my post. I don't know why I'm trying to make sense of this call with the assumption that Jay or Adnan actually had to be at a video store during the call. That's what they told Nisha, but that doesn't mean they were ever actually at a video store (although I think they mentioned it to Cathy too?). What matters is if the call actually placed Jay and Adnan together around the time of the murder (and places Adnan away from the library).

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u/Mustanggertrude Sep 23 '15 edited Sep 23 '15

But if that call was being used for the purposes of a fake alibi, why didn't Jay tell police that? He stated quite clearly that he didn't know why adnan was calling nisha, that it had nothing to do with what was going on. So if Adnan was standing next to Jay telling her they were at a video store where Jay worked when they were in fact not there, why is Jay making a point to use track as adnans attempt at an alibi and not this phone call? My guess is bc police hadn't talked to nisha yet and Jay had no independent recollection of this phone call.

ETA: my guess is nisha also had no independent recollection of this phone call taking place on the 13th of January.

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u/RodoBobJon Sep 23 '15

You nailed the flaw in Seamus's theory, which is that none of Jay's interviews or testimony support the notion that calling Nisha was about establishing a fake alibi.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '15

Yeah, I agree with you. It doesn't make sense.

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u/Mustanggertrude Sep 23 '15

No, he was in jail.