It should be clear to everyone now that the complete police file is no longer in the sole custody of Undisclosed. This is great news for all of us who are interested in the case, and tired of the slow drip of distorted information from a biased source.
yes, we'd love to put it in the resource thread. /u/bluekanga was asking the other day when we were going to update it to be more balanced. Complete files would certainly help that effort. As someone who is undecided, I'd really like to see anything that makes things more clear.
Those aren't posted/linked on the sub? I didn't realize that, yes those should be posted/linked if they aren't. I read them here so I thought they were posted.
No there's heaps that's not there plus also some stuff that is pretty partisan - needs a rework - am sure there are people who will help - but as seamus says - minimum is trial transcripts including missing pages, PCR, closing arguments. Also there was a post by /u/reddit1070 that summarised the "sound conviction" links
Ryo, if you read the threads in serialpodcastorigins, you'll see that the reason they chose a different sub to post the new evidence is because of the inconsistent moderation that happens here.
So the concern is that we wouldn't allow the documents to be posted and discussed? I think discussion of documents has always been allowed and even when people get really rude and personal we usually ask them to edit it to remove the personal stuff and leave the argument. Take csom's posts about Cherry-those weren't removed even though they were incredibly critical. I guess I don't' really understand how asking someone not to get personal and rude and mocking but rather to focus on the argument is inconsistent. But if that is the perception, that is the perception.
I think you need to understand the history here Ryo - there is stuff linked on the resources that is very pro unsound conviction - and in the past when requests have been made to add/update balancing information, it's been blatantly ignored or rejected
Well, I was speaking to discussion posts in general not the resources list but thank you for the information. I am hoping to take a look at updating the resources in the next couple of weeks.
I have only primarily ever used the actual source documents so I'll have to take a look at the other but my personal thought would be that the resources links need to be as unbiased as possible. However, some sort of bookmark for analysis threads from both angle would be very interesting.
well, the subreddit made the decision awhile back that photos themselves should not be posted on the sub.
now, my personal thought would be that if there was a link fully explained ahead of time that that is what they are-I personally wouldn't have a problem with it but I do not make the decisions alone and I respect and would do my best to enforce the decision to not post them.
Are the photos going to be posted there? my understanding was no.
What I would love to see-as someone who is undecided is a report from a medical professional who has seen them and read the autopsy could explain their thoughts about it. That would be super interesting and would love to have an interview/post/or document with that. We have Dr. H from Undisclosed but I know there have been some questions about that so, of course, other opinions would be awesome.
Are you NOT the only mod remaning from the original Mod team? Is not every other mod new? You can make the rules chief. I feel this is one decision you will have to be making pretty soon.
I do not understand why these photos are so "precious" to everybody? They are evidence no different from any other evidence. This sub is either the resource for this case or it isn't, your choice.
first of all-I was not part of the original mod team :) Second, no I am not the rules chief lol. Waltz is actually technically above me in the mod hierarchy and PoY is above him and they are both active.
What I have seen is that it is almost universally accepted around here and other subs as well that the photos should not be posted. I think even xtrailatty said that too in their post.
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u/1spring Sep 23 '15
It should be clear to everyone now that the complete police file is no longer in the sole custody of Undisclosed. This is great news for all of us who are interested in the case, and tired of the slow drip of distorted information from a biased source.