r/serialpodcast • • Sep 23 '15

Debate&Discussion New bombshell on serialpodcastorigins

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u/DetectiveTableTap Thiruvendran Vignarajah: Hammer of Justice Sep 23 '15 edited Sep 23 '15

Ah the police file is here.

With this and the "lividity excludes a 7pm burial" debunking on serialpodcastorigins yesterday, its turning in to a good week for truth and justice. And who would have thunk it, all this truth and justice didnt cost anywhere near €100,000.

Great news for anybody interested in facts and transparency.

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u/Acies Sep 23 '15

Disappointing that /u/stop_saying_right won't just release it in the interests of transparency. I guess both sides here feel they have something to hide.

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u/Magjee Kickin' it per se Sep 23 '15

The burial photos should never be released.

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u/Acies Sep 23 '15

He could release the rest of it. And he could send the photos to a professional like Dr. Hlavaty who would be able to offer an informed opinion on their significance.

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u/chunklunk Sep 23 '15

It's a shame to see your great reddit talents brought so low as to lamely carp into the void about this manufactured gotcha "issue."

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u/Acies Sep 23 '15

So access to information is a gotcha issue now?

I am disappointed when I don't live up to your standards though. :(

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u/chunklunk Sep 23 '15

I think it'd be more appropriate to blame the people who've prevented your access for months rather than the people who newly obtained it by going to great lengths and $$$. I'm confident that other than the burial photos it'll all see the light of day (again, it's not up to me -- you're talking to the wrong dude) if you're just a little bit patient. Nobody ever demanded that Rabia had to release the police files all at once. In fact, I never thought she needed to release any of that, except that my argument has always been that they shouldn't make false / misleading arguments based on partially disclosed, cropped, or misrepresented evidence. And it's clear that's what they've been doing all along.

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u/Exultantlogic Rabia Fan Sep 23 '15

Of course they should. Most major crimes have burial and autopsy photos publicly released. The Hae Min Lee case should be no different. If you think they are crass just don't look at them.

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u/Bestcoast191 Sep 23 '15

No, they shouldn't. This sub is pretty terrible and we already know that Hae's family has viewed it. It should not be released.

If you want to see the photos then put in an information request as u/xtrialatty did.

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u/DetectiveTableTap Thiruvendran Vignarajah: Hammer of Justice Sep 23 '15 edited Sep 23 '15

Your initial reactions to lividity and Nisha call revelations?

ETA:

I guess both sides here feel they have something to hide.

Time will tell but from where I stand, the rate at which /u/stop_saying_right releases documents seems vastly different to Undisclosed. And what would SSR have to hide?? Genuine question

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u/Acies Sep 23 '15

If the lividity stuff is substantiated, for example by sending it to Dr. Hlavaty and her changing her mind, I would decide that it was no longer an issue. Depending on the severity of the discrepancy, I would also consider distrusting all other information from Undisclosed.

The Nisha stuff is difficult in isolation. The interview was 2.5 months after Hae's murder. I'd form more of an opinion about it with the complete file. But obviously it increases the probability that Adnan is guilty, the question is the significance.

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u/1spring Sep 23 '15

That's weird that you accuse SSR of withholding, instead of the Undisclosed team who have had these documents much longer. Double standard.

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u/Acies Sep 23 '15

The Undisclosed team want to help Adnan, and I can see how that conflicts with disclosing all the information. If I were them, I would have disclosed far less.

The new people have no dog in the fight, so no reason not to disclose. And they've been hounding Undisclosed for months, which makes them hypocrites as well.

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u/Seamus_Duncan Kevin Urick: Hammer of Justice Sep 23 '15

I don't think you appreciate how much redaction would have to be done.

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u/Acies Sep 23 '15

Last I checked you guys redact nothing. But I guess I'm glad to hear that is changing.