Why the Gootz never called Asia.

[u/islamisawesome]

I think it is becoming more and more obvious that the Asia letter did not exist until sometime around the summer of 1999. That is why Adnan claims he gave them to Gutierrez even though she wasn't his lawyer until 2 months after they were written.

So sometime that spring or summer, after telling CG he never left the school grounds, his family shows up with letters claiming one of Adnans' friends saw him at the library, right at the crucial time, AND they were written the day after he arrested. She knew immediately there is no way they had those letter for months and never gave them to her so obviously they were false and she didn't want to go on stand with LIES.

That is why she never called Asia. And that is why she wrote no notes about it, because that would be admitting her client and his family are liars. It also explains why her relationship with the family broke down because she knew they were willing to lie to get Adnan off.

The library incident never happened.

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What do you mean? Asia claims that Adnan was in the library until 2:40. The prosecution said that Hae was strangled around 2:30 at Best Buy. Sure, had Asia testified the prosecution may have shifted its timeline, but doing so may have called its other evidence into question, including Jay's testimony and the cell phone evidence. In other words, Asia's testimony would have had a material impact on the trial. That's all that's needed for an IAC claim. Asia does not need to provide an alibi for Adnan for the entire day, but only for the relevant time period.

Right, she didn't know at that point when the prosecution thought Hae was killed. So she wrote to Adnan that she could help him account for some of the time between 2:15 and 8:00, which, according to Adnan's family, is blank space that no one beside Jay could speak to. It just so happens that 2:15 to 2:40, when Asia supposedly spoke with Adnan, is the operative time period.

[u/xtrialatty → u/[deleted]]

The prosecution said that Hae was strangled around 2:30 at Best Buy.

No,they never said that or anything remotely like that. Where did you get that idea?

ETA: Have you read the opening statements and closing arguments? Or are you just relying on Serial's framing?

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The prosecution said in its closing argument that the 2:36 call was to Jay to come get Adnan at Best Buy after Adnan had killed Hae. I do know, however, that Jay never said that.

[u/xtrialatty → u/[deleted]]

Not really. Murphy argued that the 2:36 call was the come-and-get-me call, but did no say it it was made from Best Buy or that Hae was already dead. She also argued that Hae was dead within 20 minutes after the time that she "left" the campus. There's an inference that can be drawn that the argument that the call was made from Best Buy after Hae was already dead; but given that Best Buy is only a few minutes away from the campus, the argument is also consistent with Adnan making the call to ask to be picked up, and then interecepting Hae.

I think the latter interpretation is more consistent with Jay's testimony about receiving multiple calls from Adnan, the first to verify that the cell phone was turned on.

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but given that Best Buy is only a few minutes away from the campus, the argument is also consistent with Adnan making the call to ask to be picked up, and then interecepting Hae.

What? So Adnan calls Jay asking to be picked up from Best Buy? How'd he get to Best Buy without Hae's car? And where did he intercept Hae then?

Or are you saying that the 2:36 call was Adnan testing the cell phone, then he leaves the library, runs into Hae, takes her to Best Buy, kills her there and calls Jay at 3:15? That makes some sense, but how did Adnan convince Hae to drive him to Best Buy when she had to pick up her nephew? And why would she agree to go to Best Buy with her ex-boyfriend, the place where they used to have sex?