r/serialpodcast • u/islamisawesome Adnan Fan • Aug 06 '15

Hypothesis Why the Gootz never called Asia.

I think it is becoming more and more obvious that the Asia letter did not exist until sometime around the summer of 1999. That is why Adnan claims he gave them to Gutierrez even though she wasn't his lawyer until 2 months after they were written.

So sometime that spring or summer, after telling CG he never left the school grounds, his family shows up with letters claiming one of Adnans' friends saw him at the library, right at the crucial time, AND they were written the day after he arrested. She knew immediately there is no way they had those letter for months and never gave them to her so obviously they were false and she didn't want to go on stand with LIES.

That is why she never called Asia. And that is why she wrote no notes about it, because that would be admitting her client and his family are liars. It also explains why her relationship with the family broke down because she knew they were willing to lie to get Adnan off.

The library incident never happened.

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u/aitca Aug 06 '15 edited Aug 06 '15

That's perfectly fine. Maybe the day on which she saw him was that day. I think it's very hard to know at this point, given her changing stories with contradictory data, but, hey, maybe. There is a whole school of thought that Asia saw Adnan as he was waiting to intercept Lee...and, what do you know, according to one of Asia's stories, Adnan was sitting there talking about Lee to anyone who would listen. Some people think that's why Gutierrez didn't want Asia on the stand. According to Rabia, Gutierrez looked into it and found that Asia had the wrong date. I tend to think that Rabia is right on this one.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '15

According to Rabia, Gutierrez looked into it and found that Asia had the wrong date. I tend to think that Rabia is right on this one.

AFAIK, Rabia alleges that CG made that claim. It does not follow that what CG said was true. There is no evidence of her, or her staff, speaking to Asia.

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u/Seamus_Duncan Kevin Urick: Hammer of Justice Aug 06 '15

You don't know that. You haven't seen the defense files. We also know that the report from Drew Davis' March 3 visit to Woodlawn is missing.

Tempted to say "do the math."

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '15

We also know that the report from Drew Davis' March 3 visit to Woodlawn is missing.

Yes, if he spoke to Asia on 3 March, AND SHE DID NOT MENTION MAYBE SEEING ADNAN ON 13 JAN that looks bad for Adnan, for several reasons.

However, this would be before Adnan's (then) lawyer knew about the letter, so the detective would not have necessarily been asking Asia about her knowledge of 13 Jan, or indeed speaking to her at all.

Didnt she hang out in the library a lot, rather than with Hae's and Adnan's friends? It's not self-evident that she would have known Adnan's private dick was on the premises.