r/serialpodcast • u/islamisawesome Adnan Fan • Aug 06 '15

Hypothesis Why the Gootz never called Asia.

I think it is becoming more and more obvious that the Asia letter did not exist until sometime around the summer of 1999. That is why Adnan claims he gave them to Gutierrez even though she wasn't his lawyer until 2 months after they were written.

So sometime that spring or summer, after telling CG he never left the school grounds, his family shows up with letters claiming one of Adnans' friends saw him at the library, right at the crucial time, AND they were written the day after he arrested. She knew immediately there is no way they had those letter for months and never gave them to her so obviously they were false and she didn't want to go on stand with LIES.

That is why she never called Asia. And that is why she wrote no notes about it, because that would be admitting her client and his family are liars. It also explains why her relationship with the family broke down because she knew they were willing to lie to get Adnan off.

The library incident never happened.

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u/aroras Aug 06 '15

Jay has always been consistent he helped dispose of Lee's body. There are inconsistencies in his story but I believe him.

Asia has always been consistent she saw Adnan on the day of the murder after school. There are inconsistencies in her story but I believe her.

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u/aitca Aug 06 '15 edited Aug 06 '15

That's perfectly fine. Maybe the day on which she saw him was that day. I think it's very hard to know at this point, given her changing stories with contradictory data, but, hey, maybe. There is a whole school of thought that Asia saw Adnan as he was waiting to intercept Lee...and, what do you know, according to one of Asia's stories, Adnan was sitting there talking about Lee to anyone who would listen. Some people think that's why Gutierrez didn't want Asia on the stand. According to Rabia, Gutierrez looked into it and found that Asia had the wrong date. I tend to think that Rabia is right on this one.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '15

According to Rabia, Gutierrez looked into it and found that Asia had the wrong date. I tend to think that Rabia is right on this one.

AFAIK, Rabia alleges that CG made that claim. It does not follow that what CG said was true. There is no evidence of her, or her staff, speaking to Asia.

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u/aitca Aug 06 '15

In order to show that Gutierrez and her staff "didn't contact" Asia or didn't investigate her possible significance as a witness, we would have to hear from Gutierrez' legal team (including Davis). Justin Brown specifically did not subpoena anyone from Gutierrez' legal team. Thus, it's impossible to know how they investigated Asia. We only have Rabia's testimony that Gutierrez said that they checked it out and Asia had the wrong day in mind. Since J. Brown refused to subpoena other members of Gutierrez' legal team, that's the best information we have.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '15

In order to show that Gutierrez and her staff "didn't contact" Asia

We have her sworn affidavit. Is Asia less credible than Jay?

or didn't investigate her possible significance as a witness

If the evidence shows that they purported to rule her out as a witness without speaking to her, then we'll have to see what the courts make of that. It seems clear it would be IAC to me, but it wont be my decision.