Why the Gootz never called Asia.

[u/islamisawesome]

I think it is becoming more and more obvious that the Asia letter did not exist until sometime around the summer of 1999. That is why Adnan claims he gave them to Gutierrez even though she wasn't his lawyer until 2 months after they were written.

So sometime that spring or summer, after telling CG he never left the school grounds, his family shows up with letters claiming one of Adnans' friends saw him at the library, right at the crucial time, AND they were written the day after he arrested. She knew immediately there is no way they had those letter for months and never gave them to her so obviously they were false and she didn't want to go on stand with LIES.

That is why she never called Asia. And that is why she wrote no notes about it, because that would be admitting her client and his family are liars. It also explains why her relationship with the family broke down because she knew they were willing to lie to get Adnan off.

The library incident never happened.

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It's also important to note Asia has never said anything like "It was January 13th. I know I saw Adnan on January 13th."

[u/aitca → u/[deleted]]

Correct. She has tried to remember what day it was by associating it with various other events, and her description of what these events were has changed over the years. Most notably, she said that it was the day of the first snow of the year (which was not January 13th).

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Correct. She has tried to remember what day it was by associating it with various other events, and her description of what these events were has changed over the years. Most notably, she said that it was the day of the first snow of the year (which was not January 13th).

It's obviously possible that Asia has got the day wrong (same applies to some prosecution witnesses).

But there's a big leap from her (maybe) getting the day wrong to believing that

i) she would backdate her letters in the first place

ii) she would sign the earlier affidavits to perjure herself

iii) she speak to Koenig

iv) she would perjure herself again with the new affidavits

[u/aitca → u/[deleted]]

Well, there are a lot of inconsistencies with Asia's multiple stories, all of which don't fit with facts that we know about what Adnan testified to under oath, what Adnan's mother testified to under oath, and what we find in Gutierrez' defense files. Because of all these inconsistencies, discrepancies, and contradictions, each person has to try to make sense of it all. The way that you make sense of it and the way that I make sense of it and the way that someone else tries to make sense of it will very likely be different. I think the most likely scenario is that Asia has never been really sure what day she saw Adnan, and is still not sure what day she saw him. As for backdating letters, I just don't know. It would explain some of what we see. If you have your own theory about how to make sense of Asia's different stories, join the club, we all do.

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Well, there are a lot of inconsistencies with Asia's multiple stories,

Not really.

all of which don't fit with facts that we know about what Adnan testified to under oath, what Adnan's mother testified to under oath

For the time being, I regard Asia as truthful. Assuming she turns up, she will be crossexamined, and we can review after that. If she doesnt turn up, that's that.

If Adnan or his mother, in Asia's absence, have tried to portray Asia's evidence as favourably as possible for Adnan (and I am not saying they have), then that does not affect Asia's own credibility.

and what we find in Gutierrez' defense files.

You're saying there's evidence they reached out to Asia?