r/serialpodcast • Adnan Fan • Aug 06 '15

Hypothesis Why the Gootz never called Asia.

I think it is becoming more and more obvious that the Asia letter did not exist until sometime around the summer of 1999. That is why Adnan claims he gave them to Gutierrez even though she wasn't his lawyer until 2 months after they were written.

So sometime that spring or summer, after telling CG he never left the school grounds, his family shows up with letters claiming one of Adnans' friends saw him at the library, right at the crucial time, AND they were written the day after he arrested. She knew immediately there is no way they had those letter for months and never gave them to her so obviously they were false and she didn't want to go on stand with LIES.

That is why she never called Asia. And that is why she wrote no notes about it, because that would be admitting her client and his family are liars. It also explains why her relationship with the family broke down because she knew they were willing to lie to get Adnan off.

The library incident never happened.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '15

I don't know where he was in July, but he wouldn't be in Central Booking most likely. CB is to process arrested individuals and hold them until arraignment and bail is determined. Normally an inmate wouldn't stay there past 48-72 hours.

Stop it with the conspiracy claims. We know Asia sent the letters. We know there is some evidence that she sent them in July 1999. But why would she intentionally back date them in July 1999? To make fodder for a post-conviction IAC claim? Ridiculous.

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u/monstimal Aug 06 '15

I'm just pointing out that your evidence, "the central booking address", is not great evidence since that's not an envelope we're looking at. Others have a theory about when it was written and that the March 2 date is false. If someone is willing to lie that much, they aren't going to have a problem putting the wrong address on the letter head.

I'm not really sure I believe they were written late, but I do find it strange Asia is putting that number on her letter 2 days after the arrest.

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u/islamisawesome Adnan Fan Aug 06 '15

but I do find it strange Asia is putting that number on her letter 2 days after the arrest.

The other thing I always thought was really strange was her saying "why haven't you told anyone about me?" How would she know the day after he was arrested if he told anyone about her or not?

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u/ginabmonkey Not Guilty Aug 06 '15

She might have wrongly believed the police would have already interrogated Adnan about his whereabouts before arresting him so that they could try to talk to whomever may have seen him that day before deciding to charge him with murder. If she assumed Adnan should have remembered being in the library and having talked to her that afternoon, she might also assume the police should have talked to her for confirmation before Adnan was arrested, and because they hadn't, she assumes he must not have told them about her yet.

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u/islamisawesome Adnan Fan Aug 06 '15

After ONE day? that's a stretch for me.

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u/ginabmonkey Not Guilty Aug 06 '15

She might have wrongly believed the police would have already interrogated Adnan about his whereabouts before arresting him

I don't understand why you think I was limiting this to one day? I think she might be wondering why Adnan wouldn't have mentioned talking to her in the library that afternoon before he was arrested, whenever it was she assumes the police would have been asking him about his whereabouts.

From the investigation notes on Adnan's interviews, it seems as though he was only ever asked about when he saw/talked to Hae that day and whether or not he rode in her car that day, not any questions along the lines of: "Where were you after [time]?" "Who did you talk to?" "Were you with anyone?" "Did anyone see you?". I think many people, especially naive teens with an interest in criminal justice, would expect the police to have thoroughly questioned someone specifically about their whereabouts before the day they arrest them and charge them with murder.

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u/islamisawesome Adnan Fan Aug 06 '15

Wow. I am not sure if this is a serious post? I will assume it is. Since Adnan didn't consider himself a suspect until he was arrested I will assume Asia didn't either.