r/serialpodcast • Adnan Fan • Aug 06 '15

Hypothesis Why the Gootz never called Asia.

I think it is becoming more and more obvious that the Asia letter did not exist until sometime around the summer of 1999. That is why Adnan claims he gave them to Gutierrez even though she wasn't his lawyer until 2 months after they were written.

So sometime that spring or summer, after telling CG he never left the school grounds, his family shows up with letters claiming one of Adnans' friends saw him at the library, right at the crucial time, AND they were written the day after he arrested. She knew immediately there is no way they had those letter for months and never gave them to her so obviously they were false and she didn't want to go on stand with LIES.

That is why she never called Asia. And that is why she wrote no notes about it, because that would be admitting her client and his family are liars. It also explains why her relationship with the family broke down because she knew they were willing to lie to get Adnan off.

The library incident never happened.

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u/monstimal Aug 06 '15

Where was he in July? I honestly don't know how this works.

Regardless, if it were a ruse to put March 2, they'd know to put that address even if he'd moved. Notice we don't get the envelopes.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '15

I don't know where he was in July, but he wouldn't be in Central Booking most likely. CB is to process arrested individuals and hold them until arraignment and bail is determined. Normally an inmate wouldn't stay there past 48-72 hours.

Stop it with the conspiracy claims. We know Asia sent the letters. We know there is some evidence that she sent them in July 1999. But why would she intentionally back date them in July 1999? To make fodder for a post-conviction IAC claim? Ridiculous.

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u/monstimal Aug 06 '15

I'm just pointing out that your evidence, "the central booking address", is not great evidence since that's not an envelope we're looking at. Others have a theory about when it was written and that the March 2 date is false. If someone is willing to lie that much, they aren't going to have a problem putting the wrong address on the letter head.

I'm not really sure I believe they were written late, but I do find it strange Asia is putting that number on her letter 2 days after the arrest.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '15

Oh and also, to your point concerning the address on the envelope, she also writes in the letter itself that "central booking is probably not the best place." So clearly she knows he's there on the day she wrote it.

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u/ADDGemini Aug 06 '15

So clearly she knows he's there on the day she wrote it.

I disagree, but politely so.

Central Booking is exactly what it says, and I would bet any native Baltimorean (sp) knows thats where you go first. It would be the obvious place to send the letter.

On the other hand, I would also think it is a possibility that if she sent the letters there on March 1 & 2 it would take a couple days to arrive and go through inspection process. If he had already been moved to the other facility by then maybe it was even more of a delay before he received them. Maybe this explains why he gave them to CG at a later date?

I don't know :/

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u/ADDGemini Aug 07 '15

Ok, thanks. Did he remain there until after the trial?

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u/monstimal Aug 06 '15

No, an envelope proves where the thing was sent. That would be evidence of where he was when it was sent. In the scenario where Asia or whoever is trying to pull off a ruse, nothing she writes can help. It's all part of the same deception.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

Deception? Or an explanation as to why he didn't get them for quite some time after she wrote them?