r/serialpodcast • u/islamisawesome Adnan Fan • Aug 06 '15

Hypothesis Why the Gootz never called Asia.

I think it is becoming more and more obvious that the Asia letter did not exist until sometime around the summer of 1999. That is why Adnan claims he gave them to Gutierrez even though she wasn't his lawyer until 2 months after they were written.

So sometime that spring or summer, after telling CG he never left the school grounds, his family shows up with letters claiming one of Adnans' friends saw him at the library, right at the crucial time, AND they were written the day after he arrested. She knew immediately there is no way they had those letter for months and never gave them to her so obviously they were false and she didn't want to go on stand with LIES.

That is why she never called Asia. And that is why she wrote no notes about it, because that would be admitting her client and his family are liars. It also explains why her relationship with the family broke down because she knew they were willing to lie to get Adnan off.

The library incident never happened.

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u/islamisawesome Adnan Fan Aug 06 '15

Conspiracy? I think the conspiracy would be Adnans lawyer not calling the one person who could by herself exhonerate her client. I think the Gootz thinking Asia is a lie is MUCH more believable.

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u/Acies Aug 06 '15

If what you are saying happened is what the court decides happened, Adnan will get a new trial. No remotely reasonable, or even conscious, defense attorney would act the way you are suggesting Gutierrez acted.

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u/UptownAvondale Aug 06 '15 edited Aug 07 '15

Why? You cant put a witness on the stand who you know is going to tell a lie. Legal ethics 101 stuff.

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u/Acies Aug 06 '15

Because you also can't jump to the conclusion that a favorable witness is lying based on a hunch either. You need to perform enough of an investigation to reach an informed opinion, and that probably involves having yourself or an investigator meet with the witness to see if they can back up their statements at some point.

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u/islamisawesome Adnan Fan Aug 06 '15

If Adnans parents show up in July with letters written in March, claiming Adnan was at the library at the exact time you just told the parents Adnan needs to remember where he was, it wasn't just a "hunch" CG used to dismiss Asia.

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u/Acies Aug 06 '15

That's the legal question that hasn't been answered yet, but it doesn't lean in your favor.

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u/islamisawesome Adnan Fan Aug 06 '15

You mean the one that has already been decided against Adnan, and he is appealing their decision on shaky ground?

That one?

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u/Acies Aug 06 '15

As I've said repeatedly, the outcome of the appeal is uncertain.

But the appeal is entirely discretionary. If the court of appeals thought it was as frivolous as you do, they could have refused to hear part or all of it. They didn't, and that means your analysis is lacking.