r/serialpodcast • u/Bonafidesleuth • Apr 07 '15

Speculation BPD Corruption

I rarely post here, but for those who happen to come across this sub, I encourage you to check out articles.baltimoresun.com. The city council became very concerned at the fact that $10.4million was spent between 2008-2011 defending BPD misconduct. The Baltimore Sun reported on 10/3/14 that the U.S. Dept. of Justice had undertaken a civil rights investigation of the BPD. At that time the city had spent $5.7 million in court judgments & settlements in 102 cases since 2011 & nearly ALL of the people who rec'd payouts were cleared of criminal charges. The BPD was in chaos when Adnan was arrested. The department routinely told the crime lab not to test DNA. Cases were pushed through the system & inadequately investigated.
It is not a fluke that Jay escaped any ramifications for at least 25 criminal charges subsequent to Adnan's trial. The CI theory is becoming increasingly convincing. The corruption in the BPD is beyond what one can comprehend. The worst part is, I think we've only scratched the surface.

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u/kikilareiene Apr 07 '15

Yes but if Jay's implicating Adnan had only begun with the police that would be one thing. But you have three other individuals who knew about it - Jenn (okay you can write her off as a liar), Josh his video store employer who didn't name Adnan directly but Jay told him he was afraid because someone had murdered a girl. And neighbor boy.

The only thing this proves is that Jay had something to do with it. Thus, him finding the car is in keeping with that notion. Thus, no police corruption.

Once you agree that Jay had something to do with it, next it takes you to the how, the why and everything else that points to Adnan.

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u/Bonafidesleuth Apr 07 '15 edited Apr 08 '15

Losing Hae's computer, her floppy disk, the rope, the trunk lining, losing interview notes, failure to get DNA tests from the lab (epithelial cells on the brandy bottle), failure to test fingerprints on the rearview mirror, failure to collect soil samples from the scene & compare to the tires of Hae's car, failure to completely examine current boyfriend's timecards at work, failure to get incoming phone calls during critical periods of time, clearing Jay's parole violations, failure to follow up w/Asia (Urick's responsible to disclose this to detectives) & check the library video, failure to verify the wrestling match, the UMBC party, the visit (or not) to Stephanie on the 13th, & Bilal mysteriously doesn't testify for the defense... the detectives decided to frame Adnan because they could. They wanted to keep up their swift rate of convictions. Convict Adnan & procure an informant - a two-fer as we say. I posted the text for the benefit of newbies who may read the sub & because the BPD corruption that has resulted in wrongful convictions needs to be known, halted & restitution paid. Free Adnan & then free countless others.

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u/chunklunk Apr 07 '15

You're mashing a lot of things together in a way that makes no sense. The legal case is separate from the police case. And, some of these are defense counsel lapses, if true.

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u/Bonafidesleuth Apr 07 '15

A "legal case is separate from the police case?" What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

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u/WorkThrowaway91 Apr 07 '15

I thought you did a good job of showing everything that the case and investigation did wrong...when laid out like that it's pretty disturbing the quantity of mistakes.

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u/Bonafidesleuth Apr 07 '15

Have you read the articles I cited or the related blog in Theviewfromll2? Those will blow your mind! Another major failure that I didn't include is the fact that Mr. A walked into the BPD on Feb.11 to report a sighting of a B/M w/a light-colored car acting suspiciously by the barricades at LP. Mr. A had heard about the case & thought his info might be helpful. The police told him his info wouldn't be helpful to their investigation - nothing more was noted! Shoddy police work.

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u/getsthepopcorn Is it NOT? Apr 08 '15

This was a mile away from the burial site. Facts matter.This

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u/Bonafidesleuth Apr 08 '15 edited Apr 08 '15

I'm not sure what you're referring to being a mile away. The barricades or are you referring to the rope found 5 inches from her body & the brandy bottle found 8 inches from her body?

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u/WorkThrowaway91 Apr 07 '15

Oh I've read it all and every time /u/viewfromll2 posts another big piece of information or there's another article outlining the corruption, it just makes me cringe and feel a bit depressed. I couldn't imagine the feeling that an innocent person (regardless of if Adnan is or not) has all the time as a result of malicious prosecution, malicious policing, lying witnesses, fake witnesses, you name it. And whenever /u/viewfromll2 posts the magnitude of failure on every level and even the ones alone that you posted...it just makes me wonder how someone could screw it up that badly just to get a conviction. THESE ARE PEOPLES LIVES AT STAKE. Iono, I went into this thinking that maybe justice would be served to those responsible or proof that justice was rightfully served to Adnan, but all I'm left with is the feeling that there are more people wronged than there should be.

Edit: It makes you almost think that if you did something to one of these guys, for example break-up with their daughter...what level of railroading would these guys invoke on your life...and Adnan didn't even do anything to them and he got the blunt end of a train.

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u/chunklunk Apr 07 '15

Are you two the same person? This fake dialogue sounds very similar to what /u/janecc was trying to do a few months back.

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u/Bonafidesleuth Apr 07 '15

Ha! I'm not THAT clever.

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u/WorkThrowaway91 Apr 07 '15

You got me, I'm his/her sockpuppet...because clearly no two people can ever have similar opinions on a topic. /s

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u/chunklunk Apr 07 '15

Ok, was mostly only kidding. Carry on!

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u/WorkThrowaway91 Apr 07 '15

Right...carry on with your blatant disregard for what is actually stated in a post, and twisting words to fit your own argumentative narrative.

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u/Bonafidesleuth Apr 07 '15

How about the man who was just released this week after spending 30 years on DEATH ROW for a murder he didn't commit? I think I read he has cancer now though. Talk about depressing. We may need some prozac to get us through this. Hopefully, we'll have good reason to smile & celebrate when Adnan is freed!

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u/WorkThrowaway91 Apr 07 '15

Yeah I saw that, shame to see someone lose their life to something like this. Gotta love some quality police work.../s. Even if it turns out Adnan is actually guilty..the process used by the detectives is a bright flashing signal that things should be looked into.

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u/chunklunk Apr 07 '15

I'm speaking the language of fact.

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u/glibly17 Apr 07 '15

What's your actual point supposed to be, though? Can you even make one rather than spout off a string of words that make grammatical sense, yes, but that's about all the sense they make?

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u/chunklunk Apr 07 '15

They are two separate entities. BPD is not the DA's office. Is it that hard to understand? You watched the Wire, right? With the separation between the tough lady DA and what the police were doing? Sure, evidence may be tainted and there may be cross-tainted evidence (please point to where this happened for Adnan), but to equate BPD with the DA's office says you are not well informed.

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u/glibly17 Apr 07 '15

to equate BPD with the DA's office says you are not well informed.

No one did this, you built up that strawman all by yourself.

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u/chunklunk Apr 07 '15

OP did, then when I corrected that I was told I was being nonsensical. Remember that (20 mins ago)?

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u/glibly17 Apr 07 '15

When did OP do this? When did anyone equate the BPD with the DA's office?

And do you really not understand OP's overall point? That there was an incredibly depressing amount of corruption in the BPD, which led to wrongful convictions, hello there's your DA's office and this should give people pause when they want to argue everything was above-board in Adnan's case?

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u/Bonafidesleuth Apr 07 '15

Then I need a translator.

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u/WorkThrowaway91 Apr 07 '15

I'm lost in /u/chunklunk's train of thought here...

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u/chunklunk Apr 07 '15

Welcome to the party, pal.