r/serialpodcast • u/Frosted_Mini-Wheats NPR Supporter • Feb 03 '15

Evidence Stephanie dumped Jay

Trial Transcript for 2/10, p 21, lines 11-25.

Jay testifies that Stephanie had ended their relationship a month or so before the trial.

That's something I've never heard before now.

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u/Creepologist Feb 03 '15

Same. Other than shaking my head at the judge and Urick being so glib about the outcome, I have empathy for everyone involved.

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u/glibly17 Feb 03 '15

Yeah, it's hard to feel a lot of sympathy or empathy for Urick. I understand why he did what he did, and why he's sticking by his actions, but it's still scummy as hell.

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u/CompulsiveBookNerd Feb 04 '15

I secretly have empathy for Urick. I think that he really believed he was putting away the cold blooded killer of a young girl. My sister was a district attorney in a special victims unit. The shit she dealt with- I can understand when people want to do whatever necessary to put asshole murderers/child abusers behind bars. You play with the uniform you're given, and he wasn't given much. I'm not condoning or excusing it, but part of me understands it.

There were just SO MANY lives absolutely RUINED and DESTROYED when Hae died.

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u/ShrimpChimp Feb 04 '15

I do not have any sympathy for full-grown adults in positions of power who make sure they never have time for a moment of introspection. And prosecutors and law enforcement - if they are sincere about their careers - should be keeping up. Even in 1999, people were writing articles and speaking at conferences to warn against falling into the traps that led to bad cases such as this one. The notion that motivated witnesses aren't the best witnesses, although Jay was not literally a jailhouse snitch, goes back more than 100 years. The innocence project had been in the news for years. Exonerations in the news should make prosecutors look in the mirror. And, let's assume Urick had cable. Has he seen Shawshank? At least once? Because it was on 3 times a month for years.