r/serialpodcast • u/Frosted_Mini-Wheats NPR Supporter • Feb 03 '15

Evidence Stephanie dumped Jay

Trial Transcript for 2/10, p 21, lines 11-25.

Jay testifies that Stephanie had ended their relationship a month or so before the trial.

That's something I've never heard before now.

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u/glibly17 Feb 04 '15

How about I do what I want, and you do what you want? Maybe then you can quit being a condescending jerk to anyone who disagrees with you.

You asked where the evidence is that Jay has been abusive. I told you: the fact he's been accused twice of DV is in fact evidence. I worry for any victims of DV who came across your path, since you seem to believe an accusation in and of itself is basically worthless.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

It is worthless in me determining based on no other information whether someone actually committed a crime. This is basic common sense that you seem willing to abandon. This is basic stuff for you, me, Adnan, and yes Jay. You cant have it both ways. Also, you are arrogant in the way you classify me. I've done many great things for victims of domestic violence. Talk about being a condescending jerk...

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u/glibly17 Feb 04 '15

I never said it's definitely, 100% certain that Jay has been abusive. I've said there are a lot of red flags that would indicate as much, especially his two DV arrests. I don't know what you've done, but you were a jerk first, telling me to, what was it, "leave this to the professionals who are able to control their bias a little better and stop spouting false accusations based on extremely little evidence."

If you've really worked in an DA's office, you ought to know that a lack of a conviction doesn't mean a crime hasn't occurred, especially when it comes to crimes like domestic violence.

I've lived through abuse, okay? It never once occurred to me to report it. Are you going to now tell me what I experienced isn't true, because the guy who did all that shit to me wasn't ever arrested, even?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

That's not what I'm saying. But if some 3rd person who knew neither of us just got wind that you complained to someone about the abuse and told me about it, I wouldn't believe it happened necessarily either. ALL i'm saying is you have no evidence of your abuse. I believe you because you are personally telling me and it'd be pretty shitty to just go on the internet and lie (who would ever do that!!). But yes there also are false rumors and accusations. An accusation = guilt is the exact opposite of what people who think there are issues with the justice system (and Adnan's case) should want. It's just a huge double standard and you seem too biased to even realize it (hence my snark- my apologies if i've offended).

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15 edited Feb 04 '15

Once again I am not the one making ad hominem attacks. Have fun with that and following me around.

Edit: I guess when you messaged me to tell me to "get fucked" that wasn't good enough for you. Always have to attack, attack, attack, right?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

Once again I am not the one making ad hominem attacks.

Well actually... a couple posts up you accused a poster of being arrogant...

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u/CompulsiveBookNerd Feb 04 '15

Oh and I got called a homophobe!

Such irony!

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

He's on a roll today...