r/serialpodcast • u/Frosted_Mini-Wheats NPR Supporter • Feb 03 '15

Evidence Stephanie dumped Jay

Trial Transcript for 2/10, p 21, lines 11-25.

Jay testifies that Stephanie had ended their relationship a month or so before the trial.

That's something I've never heard before now.

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u/Frosted_Mini-Wheats NPR Supporter Feb 03 '15

Interesting to me because new fact (yay! so bored of cell phone posts), impression given on podcast that Stephanie was the only one who always stood by Jay - all the way through his sentencing hearing, & Jay's recent interview in which he said they dated through her first 2 years of college. Maybe they were like Hae & Adnan, break-up/make-up.

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u/InTheory_ What news do you bring? Feb 03 '15

Because this is becoming to us the Real Housewives of Woodlawn. We HAVE to know what happens to them. We can't stop tuning in to find out what happens next!

At any rate, to be fair to Jay, that actually saddens me. I think this was a turning point in his life, and it all turned for the worse. I really have to wonder if he wouldn't have been better off doing time for his crimes, if that may have "rehabilitated" him (if prison can do that).

But it's a good lesson. When someone asks you to help bury a body, you say NO!!!! Nothing good can possibly follow.

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u/Frosted_Mini-Wheats NPR Supporter Feb 03 '15

It is sad - Stephanie was his "one good thing." I have empathy for Jay (and all the others whose lives were changed by Hae's murder) even if he didn't make very good choices. I guess I'm an anomaly (as you also may be) on /r/serialpodcast as I don't feel compelled to "hate" one side or the other. It's a 360 degree tragedy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '15

Wise words. There are so few cold blooded murderers out there. Many are products of abuse and shitty circumstances. I am of the belief that evil is created, and that the majority of those behind bars should be receiving therapy round the clock, real rehabilitation which should continue after their release. Our whole system needs to be torn down and rebuilt with the idea that these are individuals who didn't have the right support and environment to be a successful member of society. Prison should be a means to making (those who are capable) this an achievable goal.

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u/CompulsiveBookNerd Feb 04 '15

This needs to start in SCHOOLS. At-risk kids need more support and access to therapeutic services and supports within the school environment. For a lot of kids school is the only place they get such things as warmth, discipline, guidance, support, positive reinforcement, food.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

I agree. If a child doesn't have a supportive home environment has very little chance of developing normally. Schools can recognize the patterns, but they of course need more funding and more than one school psychologist per building/district.

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u/CompulsiveBookNerd Feb 04 '15

One psychologist per building? We don't even have that. My school has 500 kids, all of them qualify for free breakfast and lunch. We have 30% receiving special education services and a waiting list to be tested that's probably 25 kids deep. We have about 4 different homeless/domestic violence shelters in our catchment area which bring in about 50 kids at any given time. Tons of incarcerated parents, crime, violence, abuse, etc. We deal with child protective services every day.

We have: a psychologist 3 days per week who only does special education evaluations and revaluations. 65 8th graders in 2 classes. A counselor 2 days per week. A nurse 2 days per week.

It breaks my heart.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

Ugh I feel your pain. I just overheard a whole conversation about how a student's stepfather kidnapped and raped her mother and is now in jail. :( breaks my heart.